Microsoft PM 2 offer

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tooyoung

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tooyoungmore
Nov 7, 2018 12 Comments

Pls evaluate Microsoft Bellevue offer:
PM2 L62
Base 145k
Bonus 20%
Stock 110k
Sign up 50k
Standard relo package

Changing career from dev to PM, so years of experience are not relevant
TC now in Bay area is 195k + stock

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  • Microsoft / Product
    Brazuka

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    Bain & Company
    Brazukamore
    Base looks decent for 1st year as L62. Get a competing offer to up that stock. Curious, how many yoe?
    Nov 7, 2018 2
    • VMware
      tooyoung

      VMware

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      Citrix Systems
      tooyoungmore
      OP
      4 y in dev, 6 years in presales
      Nov 7, 2018
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

      Microsoft Product

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      Bain & Company
      Brazukamore
      Gotcha, you have a more experience than expected for L62 but I think if it's the first time on the PM role it's ok level to start.
      Nov 7, 2018
  • Microsoft gfba68
    target bonus is 10%, not 20%
    Nov 7, 2018 4
    • VMware
      tooyoung

      VMware

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      Citrix Systems
      tooyoungmore
      OP
      Don't have it on paper yet but told by recruiter that it's 20
      Nov 7, 2018
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

      Microsoft Product

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      Bain & Company
      Brazukamore
      20% is the max. Target is 10% and average is 12-13%
      Nov 7, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng
      PastDue

      Microsoft Eng

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      Google
      PastDuemore
      It’s not. 62<= target is 10, it only goes to 15 at 63. You will likely not exceed target if you’re gullible enough to believe the recruiter 🙄
      Nov 7, 2018
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

      Microsoft Product

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      Bain & Company
      Brazukamore
      Many fall for that. A senior PM that joined my team was extremely pissed when he found out about it. Essentially a 15% cut from expectations. Lol
      Nov 7, 2018
  • Intel / Product pw12xcq
    Congrats on the offer. Is the 110K stock per year or over 4 years?
    110K per year seems too high. 110K/4 years seems too low.
    Nov 8, 2018 1
    • VMware
      tooyoung

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      Citrix Systems
      tooyoungmore
      OP
      4 years
      Nov 8, 2018
  • Cisco bitset
    Microsoft gives at least 10% if max is 20% or is it even lower? Will it change for swe? Like swe making more bonus than other roles
    Nov 8, 2018 1
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

      Microsoft Product

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      Bain & Company
      Brazukamore
      No. Difference is on salary between roles hence % reflects that too. Exception was this year's special stock awards given only to engineering/product.
      Nov 9, 2018

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