Microsoft Reverse Sexism in Hiring

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Aug 1, 2018 38 Comments

Why does Microsoft follow so much of reverse sexism in hiring from campus to keep their gender ratio constant?

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  • Even if they do, it’s a great thing. There should be more women in Tech. They will bring sanity to the dog eat dog culture created by male dominance
    Aug 1, 201811
    • Uber / Eng
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      That’s a sexist comment if I’ve ever seen one. Men can show sympathy and kindness too. It’s about the type of person you hire and not the gender. I know some women who are totally vicious.
      Aug 1, 2018
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      @sight are you talking about me or the original commenter? I'm just curious what she even means by "dog eat dog culture which is created by so called male dominance"
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Expedia Esotic
      Dog eat dog probably means the aggressive culture. Being the top dog and in place kind of ordeal.
      Aug 1, 2018
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      Isn't that true in general, what's that have to do with sex?
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Qualtrics dILJ10
      There should be more women in garbage collection, offshore drilling, and construction.
      Oh wait. You meant only the GOOD jobs should have more women. Got it
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Expedia Esotic
      I think its due to the history of men being very aggressive in the industry, whereas women was seen as the more tender, easier going type of personality.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • TuneIn Spelmanson
      Follow this logic - construction. That’s where we need women
      Aug 1, 2018
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      I think it is stereotype. There are women who were programming back in 80s. They were solid and there was no gender equality rant back then. I worked in a small company with 8 collegues and we had 2 women engineers
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Expedia Esotic
      I dont think it’s smart to keep gender ratio intact through tech... Ratio of women to men in school for tech when I went to uni was almost 100:1, I don’t see it being a smart idea to match a 50/50 through that type of ratio...
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Box Gldb62
      I think its sexist to assume all women are nurturing/ caring. Also sexist to think all men aren't. It really is about the person not the gender. That being said its naive to think there isn't gender bias and there wasn't gender bias back when some prominent women worked in computer science. There was bias and discrimination then just like now. We really should focus on the human being and what they have to offer as an engineer and person. Not their gender. But this isn't a perfect world I understand that women are likely to be marginalized both consciously and unconsciously....just as men can be marginalized in different ways
      Aug 1, 2018
  • That’s not sexist. I just want a better gender ratio. Because I feel they have qualities which promote healthier team. Less competitive and less foul language and aggression
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      TBH, I have lot of respect for women who are engineers but i just don't get it when women get into recruiting/HR or project management position and call themselves women in tech.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • In order to fix something you have to make reasonable trade offs. We can’t wait for STEM education in universities to have better ratio first. There should be affirmative action but for women.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Yeah I mean real engineering role. Not manager, QA or documentation
      Aug 1, 2018
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      what you just said right now is actually revese sexism. If there are not enough women with STEM education then hiring them just to make a point is what companies are doing in the name of women in tech.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Synopsys fAart
      It is sexist and I’m offended.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Uber hayyyy
      @Doremon2 why you can’t wait for university changes? I cannot wait Africans starving so you must give up your food and be starved to death?
      Aug 1, 2018
    • TuneIn Spelmanson
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Box Gldb62
      Yeah better ratio is good but your reasons are sexist. Your assuming genders have certain traits and dismissing complexities of human beings.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Qualtrics dILJ10
      In societies that have done more to promote gender equality both legally and socially (ie the Nordic countries), the gender divide for chosen professions is actually greater. When offered maximum freedom, women tend to choose people-oriented professions and men tend to choose "thing"-oriented professions. There is no discernible difference between the genders in COMPETENCE, but there is a stark general difference in INTEREST
      Aug 2, 2018
    • Box Gldb62
      Researchers actually think the paradox you describe may be linked to available welfare. In countries that have more gender inequality ....but less welfare, women are attracted to STEM because $$$ less so in countries with welfare because they don't feel the need to make $$$. Does that mean women on average prefer non STEM careers because of their gender or does it mean they prefer a certain lifestyle because less stress? Unknown. Not enough data to know.
      Aug 2, 2018
  • Facebook public
    There's no such thing as reverse sexism. Regardless probably because they want their business to do well and because it is the right thing to do?
    Aug 1, 20184
    • +1
      Aug 1, 2018
    • New / DesignKLVx14
      Hiring based on gender is good for a business and is the right thing to do? I thought hiring the best person for the job regardless of race and gender worked toward those goals but I guess not.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Facebook public
      Data says otherwise.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • New Somalia
      What data?
      Aug 1, 2018
  • Splunk / Eng
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    Heard that if an engineer is female and doesn’t behave like a b*tch, one level up every 1.5-2years is almost guaranteed.

    Take it with a grain of salt.
    Aug 1, 20180
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    I agree on the right thing to do part but as long as they don't make the bar low and intentionally reject deserving candidates to balance the ratio. That would be like doing double Wong. Also, the worst part is that it is impossible to even detect something like that happened.
    Aug 1, 20182
    • Amazon / Eng
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      Exactly. Totally agree. And because of that reason that they're doing it year after year
      Aug 1, 2018
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      The most comical part is that every company is hiring a VP diversity/culture, those so called jobs is to just count how many women, black, Asian, folks are in a given place (team or company). They get paid 5x times of an engineer as it is a VP position. If you don't believe me then lookup who is the VP diversity in your company or any other companies and check their background and profiles. You will get an idea what I'm talking about.
      Aug 1, 2018
  • Salesforce EJCM71
    The amount of justification for reverse sexism in this thread is astonishing.
    Aug 1, 20180
  • What does “consistent” even mean? 50/50? Because it’s well documented that the ratio graduating in this field is 75/25.

    50/50 would imply a strong anti-male hiring committee. .
    Aug 1, 20181
    • Microsoft Glaucon
      (50/50... Like the current intern crop 😬)
      Aug 1, 2018
  • Expedia Actionable
    gle.com/amp/s/kkkk://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/business/women-sexism-work-huffington-kamala-harris.amp.html

    This article is about what qualified women actually face at work on a day-day basis
    Aug 23, 20180

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