Microsoft Software Dev offer

Bank of America ARFH71
Sep 29, 2018 41 Comments

I got an offer from Microsoft Redmond. Outlook team.
My Yoe: 4.5
I was expecting level 62 as in my previous job I was leading a team of 6 engineers. Also my current base is 140k at JP Morgan.

Their offer
Level 60
Base 114.5k
Bonus 5k
Stock 10k divided in 4 years.

I declined above numbers. what are the numbers i should get for level 61 or level 62?

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  • Wayfair / Eng
    hErg55

    Wayfair Eng

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    Cognizant
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    Software Engineer
    hErg55more
    Lowball offer - you can tell them to GTFO.
    Sep 29, 2018 6
    • Microsoft qwes4fvu
      How did your interview go?
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Bank of America ARFH71
      OP
      It was 2 coding 2 design 1 manager round. Leetcode medium to hard level.
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Microsoft qwes4fvu
      Did you feel good about it?
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Bank of America ARFH71
      OP
      Yes I felt very good about it
      Oct 1, 2018
    • Microsoft qwes4fvu
      Certainly a low ball... they are 50 50 on you.
      Oct 1, 2018
  • Microsoft WoCE36
    Thats ridiculously low offer 😒 you either get a competing offer from FANG or tell Microsoft Recruiter to fuck themselves off. Are you fucking kidding me?
    Sep 29, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng
    iDkP18

    Microsoft Eng

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    Microsoft
    iDkP18more
    I interviewed people with many yoe who got 60 or 61 and I recently got a 15 yoe guy from Intel as an 62 as my coworker. We didn't low balled him, he was just not good enough for a Senior. My verdict for him was no hire or hire at 61-62. I also recommended a 4yoe as a 63(Senior), the guy was very good. If you don't agree with the assessment try again or try to get feedback. Maybe HR low balled you.
    Sep 29, 2018 3
    • Collective Health / Eng FaceAnd
      Why did you recommend the 4yoe guy as 63? Was it technical knowledge or leadership or both?
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng
      iDkP18

      Microsoft Eng

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      Microsoft
      iDkP18more
      in 1h he did 2 LT hard and when we started talking about system design he was very knowledgeable. I asked 2 behavior q and he showed a very good mentality.
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Collective Health / Eng SpoonMorn
      Wow. Yeah sounds like genius level to me
      Sep 29, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng boredhere
    I don't think you will get 62, industry hire from a not so hot in tech company. 61 should be doable.
    Sep 29, 2018 2
    • Bank of America ARFH71
      OP
      Even for a 61 this is a low-ball offer right?
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng boredhere
      10k stock over 4 years is abysmally low even for L59.
      Sep 29, 2018
  • Stella & Dot TG911
    It is very low. I just got offer from Microsoft as new grad. Not sure what level I am since I have Master in CS, but assume L59

    Base 117k
    Bonus 20k
    Stock 75k divided in 3.5 years.

    Hope it helps!!!
    Sep 29, 2018 1
    • Bank of America ARFH71
      OP
      Thanks that helps a lot
      Sep 29, 2018
  • Microsoft Nxonshdizn
    Sep 29, 2018 0
  • Microsoft jaggies
    Seriously low
    Sep 29, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng SwitchJobs
    Usually finance to tech transition gets lowballed. Try some FANGs
    Sep 29, 2018 0
  • Microsoft DOyu71
    Miceosoft has been making pretty competitve offers from what I've seen recently, but this is a joke. You should be able to get 61 something like 135k, 40k sign on, maybe 75k stock.
    Sep 29, 2018 1
    • Bank of America ARFH71
      OP
      That would be an ideal TC not too high or too low.
      Sep 30, 2018
  • Microsoft Breache
    Leading ? I have heard many of my friends in east coast say that they are leading - that doesn’t change anything , come perform here , you have to show how you impact others and that will get you promoted
    Sep 29, 2018 1
    • Bank of America ARFH71
      OP
      Agreed about accepting challenge and performing there. But it does not make sense to go below my current base. Would u accept an offer which is below your current base?
      Sep 29, 2018
  • Microsoft gfba68
    It's low even for an l60 offer
    Sep 29, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng sonsn
    I was at 128k at 61 when I left this summer because it was low.
    Sep 29, 2018 0
  • Invesco / Data datajockey
    602 or 603 at Chase?
    Sep 29, 2018 4
    • Bank of America ARFH71
      OP
      602
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Invesco / Data datajockey
      I just accepted a 602 at JP Morgan Chase. Base 132. No directs. Were you in consumer banking? Corp?
      Sep 29, 2018
    • New IHnF78
      What is 602 at Chase, first year associate?
      Oct 11, 2018
    • Invesco / Data datajockey
      No. 601 is associate. 602 is Sr. Associate. aka AVP and 603 is VP.
      Oct 11, 2018
  • Hey, I also came from Bank of America a year ago with 2 yoe and I aced all rounds of interview and was offered 61 with base 125K + 20K bonus + 25k stock. It's true finance to tech transitions get lowballed. You either suck it and work hard for promotion next year, which will be a huge salary increase, or stick in the bank.
    Sep 29, 2018 2
    • Microsoft WoCE36
      Have you been promoted to 62?
      Sep 29, 2018
    • Not yet, I was less than one year during the Sept promotion period. But base got raised to 130k. Shoot for promotion next year.
      Sep 29, 2018
  • Bank of America ARFH71
    OP
    Thanks everyone for your response. I will go through the negotiation and see where it goes.
    Sep 30, 2018 1
    • New IHnF78
      Hey how did it go? Also what's 602 at Chase?
      Oct 11, 2018
  • Microsoft Shanty
    You did the right thing telling them to fuck off
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • New / Eng Chicago,
    I got L60 with 2.5 years experience from finance. 120/28.5/25 (over 4 years). You should negotiate, get a competing offer.
    Sep 29, 2018 0
  • Microsoft bOxK
    This is very likely the lowest offer I’ve seen recently from Microsoft.
    Sep 29, 2018 0
  • Microsoft ECNL41
    It is low but not terribly low for 60 with no golden handcuffs. If you're worth it, you could have a nice hockey stick TC
    Sep 29, 2018 0
  • Microsoft msboy
    Fuck Msft. They lowball people under principal level
    Sep 29, 2018 0

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