Microsoft Sr SDE L64 Comp in Redmond

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Aug 16, 2018 50 Comments

Hi fellow Blind users,

I interviewed at Microsoft in Redmond last week, and got a verbal offer today for a Sr SDE (L64) position.

I want to know if the offer is competitive and if I should negotiate/how much wiggle room do I have for negotiation.

Base: $184k
Sign-on bonus: $100k over 2 years
RSUs: $320k over 4 years
Maximum Cash Bonus: Up to 30% of the base

Is this a competitive offer?

Now I fully understand cash bonus is "up to a maximum of 30% of base". I am going in with the expectation that I will not be getting 30%. Is 15% achievable provided there are no negatives in performance review and all goals are met with high quality?

YoE - 11 total, first 2-3 years as an Analyst before I switched to full time SDE role.

No trolls please. I'll appreciate honest advise.

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  • Microsoft / Eng grndtorino
    This is L65 number. I think they want to be conservative with the level and see you get promoted.
    Aug 16, 2018 2
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      Now that is something I hope comes true. I do not want to and have not even asked them to bump my level at this time because going in as a Principal will definitely raise their expectations (in the very, very unlikely event they agree), and I'll be walking with a target on my back. I don't want to be the individual everyone hates in the team on their first day.
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng K1K1
      64 is a great place to be.
      Aug 17, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng Goivenglav
    Clearly a great offer! Congrats! What org?
    Aug 16, 2018 3
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      I am sorry I would rather not disclose as many recruiters are also on Blind. I hope you understand.
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Microsoft Frunk
      Atleast the evp of the org ?? I haven’t seen such high numbers - I was screwed then :( when I joined an year ago
      Aug 16, 2018
    • New / Eng
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      It's under Azure. Don't know the EVP's name. By the way, it's not about getting screwed, comp has certainly sky rocketed in last 12-15 months. Many of my friends with similar skill and experience are crunching 350k-400k at FANGs and even recently IPOd companies.
      That wasn't the case say 18 months ago
      Aug 16, 2018
  • Qualcomm whileuwait
    Years of experience?
    Aug 16, 2018 4
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      11 total, but first 2-3 years I wasn't a Dev. I was more of an analyst for first 2-3 years of my career. Also updated the original post with this information
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Qualcomm whileuwait
      Looks like great offer... Congrats!!

      I have about 8 yr exp and was offered TC of just over 200k(L63) and they didn't match my other (Google/fb) offers... I ended up at Google but in Bay, but would have happily accepted equivalent/col-adjusted pay for Seattle area
      Aug 16, 2018
    • New / Eng
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      Thanks for chiming in and congratulations on your Google employment.
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Intuit / Other
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      @whileuwait- MS is screwed up company. They act like we fake our competitive offers. Google is way better than MsFt
      Aug 16, 2018
  • Microsoft Seances
    It’s pretty good! 15% is a very reasonable goal.
    Aug 16, 2018 3
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      Thanks :) Yes I for one don't want to lie to myself thinking I'll hit 30%
      That's their first offer so I'm sure there's some room to negotiate
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Microsoft Seances
      Base is super hard to change. You may try stock and more cash. You tc is already equivalent to principals’.
      Aug 16, 2018
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      Thanks for the suggestion.
      Aug 16, 2018
  • Microsoft / Mgmt IamSatya
    Pretty solid offer
    Aug 16, 2018 4
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      Any room to negotiate?
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Microsoft Frunk
      Wow even after this being a solid offer you want to negotiate ?
      Aug 16, 2018
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      Well, this is their first offer. I am sure there is some more juice left in that lemon.
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Microsoft / Mgmt IamSatya
      I don’t think there is too much room. Maybe on RSUs, try to push for more
      Aug 17, 2018
  • Amazon / Mgmt while(1){}
    That's too much money..
    Aug 16, 2018 1
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      How are Amazon L6 salaries in Seattle area compared to this? Per Levels.fyi L64 MSFT seems to be L6 AMZN equivalent.
      Aug 16, 2018
  • Microsoft M$FT🥜
    Levels.fyi
    Aug 16, 2018 5
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      Looked at that but not a single TC even hit the 250k/year mark. They show a low of 190k and a high of 230k for L64. So definitely that is not true as the offered numbers are much higher than that. That's the reason I asked here.
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Microsoft M$FT🥜
      Congrats on the offer! go ahead and add your TC so non-blind folks can benefit as well
      Aug 16, 2018
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      Once I negotiate and and accept, I will definitely do that. Thanks.
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Microsoft DOyu71
      Levels is totally screwed up for Ms compensation. It's not even close. Off > 100k for l66.
      Aug 26, 2018
    • Salesforce Refratbeb
      Do you own stake in levels.fyi ? I see you recommending everywhere.
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  • Microsoft $&@“
    Yes, very solid offer.

    Also, note that you’ll accrue more stock annually as well.
    Aug 16, 2018 3
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      How does that work in terms of vesting? Don't know anyone at MSFT and yes, I can ask the recruiter about this, but would be good to know. Thanks.
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Microsoft Frunk
      Yes those annual bonus stocks vest every 3 months for 5 years
      Aug 16, 2018
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      Thanks for the information.
      Aug 16, 2018
  • Microsoft HalJordan
    Fantastic offer. This is in 65 territory.
    Aug 16, 2018 2
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      I guess then it comes with a high performance expectation, which I am not going to shy away from :-)
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Microsoft Frunk
      Actually this is even a bit higher than what we give for a good 65 offer
      Aug 16, 2018
  • Amazon mzyQ25
    Congrats. Did u have competing offers?
    Aug 16, 2018 2
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      No I did not. I wasn't even looking to interview but I just decided to go for this one interview and see how things turn out. Went in with zero expectations and zero hope as I was so out of interview practice.
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Amazon mzyQ25
      Nice
      Aug 16, 2018
  • Tango Health / Eng WaterColor
    Did you have competing offers? How did your interviews go?
    Aug 16, 2018 2
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      No competing offers. Interviews were a home run, a slam dunk, a touch down with extra point conversion.
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Tango Health / Eng WaterColor
      Nice.. great offer. And wer do u work?
      Aug 16, 2018
  • Microsoft smoamg36
    Which team?
    Aug 16, 2018 1
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      I am sorry I would rather not disclose as many recruiters are also on Blind. I hope you understand.
      Aug 16, 2018
  • Microsoft DOyu71
    It's a great offer. Equivalent pay to a better than average l65. You'll also get refreshers 0-54k (target 24k), bonus target 15%. Roughly 80%+ get target or greater.
    Aug 26, 2018 0
  • Amazon
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    Wow, can I join? Great numbers, I didn't know MSFT paid that high of a TC.
    Aug 18, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Product pizzaqueen
    Better than my l65 negotiated offer 18 mos ago. Congrats!
    Aug 18, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng oAjk20
    Very solid offer. Your base is at or close to a new 65 in Redmond.
    Aug 17, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Frunk
    Wow that’s a great offer !!!
    Aug 16, 2018 0
  • Salesforce Refratbeb
    What was your final offer details?
    Jan 26 0

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