Microsoft culture >>> Apple Culture

Microsoft Girlfriend
Feb 14 31 Comments

You can’t argue this point unless you’ve worked at both.

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  • Microsoft M💰FT
    Apple is probably the most similar company to msft both from a product and corporate identity standpoint.
    Feb 14 15
    • Walmart.com / Eng äččä
      Lol... you are not the only PhD in DL... I am one too... which of my opinions can you refute factually? Do you not agree that Kaiming and Pushmeet were quality researchers (just remembered Piotr Dollar too)? I never said MSR is behind... I said “may be marginally behind”. Why take everything so personally? Just saying my arguments are unresearched won’t cut it... tell me which ones.

      Obviously if one or two star researchers leave, the value of MSR won’t go down... and I never said that. Read before you comment.
      Feb 16
    • Walmart.com / Eng äččä
      It looks like other people agree with me too: https://www.teamblind.com/article/msr-vs-google-brain-JEa4QgGr ... or maybe no one there knows ML/DL too 😉... cool down... the only takeaway from my comment is MSR is losing some talent to Google Brain and FAIR. Tomorrow suppose Airbnb/Uber start offering insane freedom/money/interesting problems, you will see some people moving there too... brain drain is natural... does not mean any one company is bad
      Feb 16
    • All large tech companies poach from each other. MSR isn’t “losing” anyone without “gaining” someone from another big tech company.
      Feb 16
    • Your argument is still bad and juvenile. Like an outsider who got all their facts from gossips. I have actually lived it and worked in top tech companies/ interviewed with them for ML/DL positions as well as have a PHD in the field....soooo by Felicia
      Feb 16
    • Walmart.com / Eng äččä
      Sorry, I can’t argue further as you just keep saying I have a PhD and I have worked there without bringing any facts on the table... btw I have worked at MSR, IBM Watson and my labmates worked at Google, so it’s not completely based on Gossips
      Feb 16
  • Doesn’t it vary a lot depending on the team or org you worked in?

    I worked in Azure and it had a horrible culture of bosses deciding your deadlines for you, endless pressure, no thankfulness etc. I find Apple much more relaxed and open to ideas without having to wade through bureaucratic bs. ymmv.
    Feb 14 8
    • Microsoft Girlfriend
      OP
      Oh I’m on a core team.
      Feb 14
    • @Girlfriend - I fully agree with you that teams dictate this more than companies
      Feb 14
    • MathWorks dmntim
      Well crap, I thought MSFT had chill people and decent WLB, maybe it isn't so true for Azure 🤔
      Feb 14
    • Microsoft Girlfriend
      OP
      @mathworks my team is amazing. We have wlb, everyone is super chill... its AMAZING
      Feb 14
    • New / Eng abuhr3i
      OP, I'm also in microsoft ai&r. Do yoi think ML/DL experts can have most impact in Azure?
      Feb 15
  • Microsoft Fl@$h
    Agree
    Feb 14 0
  • Apple CRNY
    Was in Bing, WLB hard to say, MSFT has no work, Life definitely MSFT >>>>> AAPL, in the days that guaranteed everyone got their own office, colleague even WFH 2 days/week and 2 days with kids in his office, working 1 day.
    But TC AAPL >>>> MSFT. I do hear partners make a lot, but I’m below that level.
    Feb 14 3
    • Eh, my TC is pretty good, Apple does pay a lot though but for the 10 or 20k more I would have made at apple it wasn’t worth it to me tbh. I’m still in contact with quite a few teams at Apple, so I could go back if I wanted to. Right now I don’t desire to.
      Feb 15
    • Apple CRNY
      10k doesn’t really worth it. AAPL for me was +100k TC, and the refresh in MSFT is.. meh~ so almost a +200k
      Feb 15
    • Ok, if the team is good, that would def be attractive.
      Feb 15
  • Microsoft hwksi
    What's superior?
    Feb 14 0