Microsoft offer - Visa issues

Lumentum surferss
May 18 39 Comments

Hi all

I recently got an offer from Microsoft as a Senior Program Manager. I wanted to discuss Visa

Firstly, I have a non-stem OPT which expires in a month. No extensions. No h1b. Now, potentially I have two options:
Register in a day 1 CPT program or sit in Vancouver office and travel every other week on b1. This is from my perspective, I haven't had a chance to discuss this with Microsoft lawyers yet. Anybody from Microsoft here who was in similar situation? How flexible is Microsoft in this regard especially since Vancouver is couple hours drive away.

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TOP 39 Comments
  • Microsoft fancyydk
    You’re not supposed to work in the US if you come on B1. The “business” aspect of it is to only attend meetings and stuff. Also if you visit the US too frequently and stay for a long period of time, border officers will start questioning the purpose of your trip. MS will probably send you to Vancouver so you can come back when you get your H1B or after a 1-1.5 years on L1
    May 18 0
  • New / Eng pedroxido
    Almost same situation in which the team I applied is based only in Redmond and I cleared the onsite.

    As far as I know, They want me and talked to another team in Vancouver. I talked with the new HM about the project and I'm waiting for next steps.
    May 20 8
    • New / Eng pedroxido
      I think one reason is because it is end of fiscal year? I'm not sure about this
      May 20
    • I have heard that they stack new hire that need to go to vancouver to have a common starting day , also they have people that won t be accepted for this year H1 lottery to move to vancouver ..... I don t know if those are why it s being delayed but seriously it s taking too long.
      May 20
    • I did also check salaries in vancouver it really low compare to what offered in us Seattle
      May 20
    • Lumentum surferss
      OP
      One of friends is being moved to Vancouver Microsoft, he said they are compensating the base salary decline through relocation and other allowances
      May 21
    • Do you have any Idea of the salary expectation , glassdoor and LinkedIn are talking about 93k - 100k from 1 to 3 yoe
      May 21
  • Google uzaname
    Option 2 seems like breaking the law. You need to ask Microsoft lawyers.
    May 18 2
    • Lumentum surferss
      OP
      If someone gets a b1/b2 (business visa) how frequent can they travel to US?
      May 18
    • Google uzaname
      They can travel however frequently they need. The issue will be with a reason for this travel.
      May 18
  • Nvidia samelove
    Try MasterCard
    May 18 1
    • Lumentum surferss
      OP
      You're hilarious. So fun. Not.
      May 18
  • Microsoft / Other abcde4
    Your offer will be rescinded. Microsoft's Immigration is known to rescind a lot of offers.
    May 19 1
    • Lumentum surferss
      OP
      Incidentally my friend who is a PM is being sent to Vancouver. His offer from Canada has been generated. My issue is that I just joined and I am not sure how flexible will the team be regarding having someone start from Vancouver right from the get go
      May 19
  • Oracle chillar
    Nice to Canada. It's a better option
    May 18 0
  • Western Union 30ssss
    Option 2 is not possible. You need a local address and travel everyday in b1 is not allowed. Are you a Canadian citizen?
    May 18 4
    • Lumentum surferss
      OP
      No, but my Canadian PR is due in December through Express entry.
      May 18
    • New
      notTeslaa

      New

      PRE
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      notTeslaamore
      @suferss Can you bet PR without being in the country?
      May 19
    • Lumentum surferss
      OP
      Typical time to process through Express entry is 6 months
      May 19
    • Western Union 30ssss
      Seems like you are at a dead end. Take it to the lawyers and see whether you can get an option to work from Canada.
      May 19
  • Lumentum surferss
    OP
    They gave verbal offer. They have hold back on written offer. They want to evaluate whether they can proceed by having me talk to lawyers first.
    May 23 2
    • Finisar
      knock_

      Finisar

      PRE
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      Have they done the negotiation part .?
      May 23
    • Lumentum surferss
      OP
      They accepted my negotiation.
      May 23
  • Amazon new_ew
    Are you sure there aren't any issues in traveling into the US every 1-2 weeks on a B1 visa?
    May 18 2
    • Lumentum surferss
      OP
      I am not sure. Is frequency the problem or the fact that working on b1 Visa is not allowed? Isnt that the purpose of business Visa?
      May 18
    • Amazon new_ew
      Doing actual work is definitely not allowed. But you'd probably wanna check if the frequency can also become a problem after a certain number of trips.
      May 18
  • Google printasap
    I think they will just move to a team in Vancouver or somewhere else.
    May 18 1
    • Lumentum surferss
      OP
      I was hired into a specific team. I am not sure how flexible will they be to send me to another team in Vancouver.
      May 18
  • Lumentum surferss
    OP
    No cpt is for the length of the duration of the program
    May 24 0
  • New / IT BcDM68
    CPT is for only 1 year right? Correct me if I’m wrong
    May 23 0
  • Lumentum surferss
    OP
    Since Vancouver is not an option. The other option that I have is working on CPT. I know that every Microsoft intern who is enrolled in a program works on CPT but not sure if they'd accept someone joining full time to work on CPT. My CPT is valid for next 2 years.
    May 23 0
  • Finisar
    knock_

    Finisar

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    knock_more
    When did they informed you and who (immigration department or hiring manager).? Is immigration department said no before generating the offer letter or after signing the offer letter .?
    May 23 0
  • Lumentum surferss
    OP
    Hiring manage said that Vancouver is not an option. I am not sure if Microsoft accepts CPT
    May 23 0
  • Sephora zGyg65
    B1 visa is not made for those purposes. You cannot legally work in the US while on a B1. Your best bet is CPT or (if your current company allows you ) working for your current company in a managerial role outside of the US for a few years and transferring back on an L-1. The L-1 route would likely be more risky though.
    May 21 0
  • Lumentum surferss
    OP
    DMed you man. Please check.
    May 20 0
  • Grainger vijayvadlamani
    I'd go with option 2
    May 18 0