Microsoft offer

Expedia oey
Aug 1, 2017 14 Comments

Posting for a friend

A prior colleague of mine recently received an offer from MSFT. He is sde 3 at his current role and has 5 years of experience.

At Msft, he has been offered a level 60. Isnt that a low offer? How can this be negotiated?

Also, what should be the expectations for base, options and sign on bonus for lvl 60 at Msft?

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  • Microsoft trolololo
    Not uncommon these days. I have seen people with more years be at lvl 60. Expectations are about 110k-115k base, with everything else negotiable.
    Aug 1, 2017 0
  • Microsoft / Eng fqLb15
    That's an incredibly low offer. I started at 59 with zero experience and got to 60 after 6 months. Average is about a year. With 5 years' experience you should at least be somewhere in SDE II, but most of the guys I work with that have ~5 years are seniors. I don't know what negotiation options there are, but that's a shitty offer
    Aug 1, 2017 2
    • Microsoft realfungi
      what team/ group are you in?
      Aug 2, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng fqLb15
      I'm in C+E. Would rather not specify the team
      Aug 2, 2017
  • Microsoft / Product
    Freya ❤️

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    Microsoft tends to discount external experience and hire external candidates relatively low - or they used to. Hired as L61 when I was a Principal at my previous job.

    I wanted a change so I took it but that was ridiculous in my opinion.
    Aug 2, 2017 0
  • Microsoft gytedu
    5 years of relevant experience maps to 60 or 61. unless he excelled in the interview.
    Aug 4, 2017 0
  • Microsoft / Product anonymeee
    probably L60 was offered either based on the interview performance or position availability. I would accept the offer and work my way up. If he does well he can quickly move up.
    Aug 3, 2017 0
  • Microsoft MIta60
    Level 60 is SDE 1
    Aug 1, 2017 0
  • Epic nasre
    Can anyone share the comp for L61?
    Sep 8, 2017 1
    • New / Ops
      PmAD45

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      $105 plus bonus is average for L61
      Sep 24, 2017
  • Microsoft gytedu
    comp is standard. he can only negotiate joining bonus unless he has an offer from Google or Facebook
    Aug 4, 2017 0
  • Microsoft tuyopi
    No
    Aug 2, 2017 0
  • Microsoft Foreach
    You can negotiate, but it's hard to negotiate a level-up. It's easier to negotiate a higher pay, but within the same level. Good luck.
    Aug 1, 2017 0
  • Expedia oey
    OP
    Thanks guys. What should be the expectations for RSUs and joining bonus?
    Aug 1, 2017 0