Microsoft offer negotiation
I received a verbal offer from Microsoft for a senior software engineer (not sure if 63 or 64) at Azure as following: Base 165k Sign on 50k split into 2 years (25k a year) RSU 170k split into 4 years (42.5k a year) I have a competing offer from Amazon in the 300k total. Btw this is an initial MS offer, when i tried to negotiate it and said i have a competing Amazon offer, a recruiter answered it's their highest offer. Is that true, doesn't MS negotiate offers ,especially when there are competing ones ? I'd prefer MS for the wlb and the team seems more mature than Amazon 14 years of experience.
More than what I had when I left in 2017. But I think you can negotiate on rsu
I make 300k at 62. Ask for more, be prepared to walk away and you'll get it.
OP. Yoe?
14 yo,added to the post
You’re trying to balance a $300k offer from amazon against a $385k offer from Microsoft? I think you may have already told them they are competing and they played by putting all their cards on the table. And yes, wlb is better at Microsoft. Maybe take the win?
Your calculations are wrong, the MS numbers come to 165+25 signon+42.5 rsu+25 bonus=257 a year
14 yoe and senior? You’re getting lowballed ...
You don’t know the candidate. Huge variability in what happens in that 14 years, and we have no data. Could include 10 years developing crud webapps.
Yeah, "years of experience" is a completely useless metric for anything other than determining a reasonable maximum. Obviously there's something of a ceiling with respect to how much any one person can reasonably develop over a given period of time, but there definitely isn't a floor (it's easy to stagnate, and many eventually start to regress). Regardless, you won't earn points (or respect) in any high performance organization for simply existing.
If 63 that's a perfectly reasonable offer at Microsoft. Not a lowball at all.
The lowball is the level, not the offer.
Quick search on blind you’ll see they can go higher.
Msft cant give 300k for senior, you have to come in at 65 for 300+
By 300K, do you mean 300K TC or initial RSUs?