Microsoft offer won't budge on time

Northrop Grumman / Eng sad-panda
Oct 20 44 Comments

How can you get Microsoft to extend time on an offer? Waiting on offers and finishing on-sites. Need like an extra week but they only gave me 5 days. Told them I'm waiting for a big 5 and they just declined it.

Low ball offer. SWE 2
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  • Lockheed Martin / R&D Schz3
    But if you accept the offer and then back out later, you can probably forget ever working for Microsoft in future.

    It’s frustrating that they are choosing to pressure you in this way. I wouldn’t take it and MoveOn. You can always apply again Someday
    Oct 20 9
    • Microsoft iamletired
      Blacklists don't exist. No sane company would blacklist a candidate over something like this. It's bad business.
      Oct 20
    • Google ppeC15
      The hiring manager might not want to. It likely won’t be a company wide thing. It takes a lot of effort to interview someone, get them an offer and then have them renege. They might have rejected other candidates because you accepted. I think it highly depends on the person doing the hiring.
      Oct 20
    • Microsoft iamletired
      Microsoft is huge. One hiring manager not liking you isn't going to make a difference.
      Oct 20
    • Friend reneged an offer after accepting & still receives emails about recruiters asking how he’s doing + whether he’s interested in new opportunities. Just like said above, MS is a huge corporation, they won’t care to the point of blacklisting you.
      Oct 20
    • Lockheed Martin / R&D Schz3
      Good points. Thanks for the perspectives.
      Oct 21
  • Google ppeC15
    You kinda shot yourself in the foot a bit by saying you need more time just so you can get counter offers. Next time I would recommend say you need to talk to more people to get a sense of the culture or keep negotiating the offer or something to extend the timeline.

    You can always accept and then way and reject their offer if you get a better one but you might be burning some bridges. Or if you think the offer is too low, just reject or say you can’t give them a response by the date they want and see what happens
    Oct 20 12
    • Google ppeC15
      Hmm I’m very hesitant to generalize to all negotiation because each case is always different. I would say you still can because after you passed the interview, it’s up to them to chase you with an offer to make you join. However if you’ve accepted a verbal offer and then want to renegotiate, you should present a compelling reason, like a counter offer or something that’s changed between when you accepted before and now. Otherwise, they might call your bluff and just stand firm with their offer.
      Oct 20
    • OP, the recruiter should’ve sent you a written offer immediately after the verbal offer.
      Oct 20
    • Northrop Grumman / Eng sad-panda
      OP
      So if there is no written offer, wtf does this mean?
      Oct 20
    • It literally means nothing. Until you accept, then you both haven’t come to a verbal binding agreement. If they won’t/haven’t sent you one despite asking (which is really fucking weird in my opinion), then send them an email with the offer you heard them say and get them to either confirm or amend it.
      Oct 20
    • Fannie Mae sDEB48
      I just received an L60 offer from Microsoft (for significantly more TC than this L61 offer so you should do everything you can to negotiate this up). They did the same thing to me, no offer in writing until I accept verbally. Even after I asked. Guy was also super aggressive like a car salesman. I took a different offer, so I can’t confirm the offer in writing after, but I can say it seems they are doing this lately.
      Oct 21
  • New / IT
    spartan90

    New IT

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    spartan90more
    That offer is bad, but if they won't budge then accept the offer and wait for other results. You are not bound to join even if you accepted the offer.
    Oct 20 0
  • Amazon jKgh68
    This offer sucks
    Oct 20 2
    • Northrop Grumman / Eng sad-panda
      OP
      Yeah, if the offer doesn't get better I might just wait for something better.
      Oct 20
    • Slalom Consulting / Sales StankyFeet
      Yeah I got higher from Amazon as sde 1. I guess msft figures people want chill WLB > TC
      Oct 20
  • Amazon ddRo78
    I got a Microsoft offer about 2 months ago for SDE 2 with 150k base/220k stock and 50k sign on. So you're getting hella lowballed.
    Oct 20 2
    • Goldman Sachs baburao1
      Sure you had competing offers?
      Oct 20
    • Microsoft tc<life
      L62?
      Oct 21
  • Microsoft Xbox man
    61 or 62?
    Oct 20 1
  • Microsoft iamletired
    Accept and then renege if you get a better offer.
    Oct 20 0
  • Bloomberg F.U. Money
    Mine didn’t have an accept by date.
    Oct 20 0
  • Amazon / Eng SEAFreeze
    Wtf Microsoft, my SDE1 offer was the same as your SDE2 offers?
    Oct 20 0
  • Microsoft tc<life
    YOE?
    Oct 20 2
    • Northrop Grumman / Eng sad-panda
      OP
      4
      Oct 20
    • Microsoft tc<life
      Thats a lowball offer. Can go much higher on all 3 components.
      Oct 21
  • Chevron kuulcoder
    What team is this for?
    Oct 20 1
    • Northrop Grumman / Eng sad-panda
      OP
      Azure but one of their business apps
      Oct 20
  • New / IT
    spartan90

    New IT

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    Whats the location?
    Oct 20 1
    • Northrop Grumman / Eng sad-panda
      OP
      Bellevue office
      Oct 20
  • Microsoft M-x L3
    Is there a number that they could reach and you would immediately stop interviewing and accept? Let them know what that number is and offer to accept immediately, saying otherwise you will need more time.
    Oct 20 0
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    spartan90

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    spartan90more
    Accept and reneg bro.
    Bait and switch is no 1 business tactic in the world.
    Oct 20 0

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