Microsoft or Adobe?

Adobe codepro
Oct 17 22 Comments

i have 2 new grad offers.

Adobe Bay Area
Base: 132
stock: 135
bonus:20

Microsoft Redmond
Level 60
Base: 118
stock: 130
bonus: 40

Is there any scope of negotiation in MSFT offer?
which offer should I choose and why?

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  • Adobe codepro
    OP
    Is there any scope of negotiation in the MSFT offer?
    Oct 17 4
    • Microsoft GTFO++;
      Your base is pretty good for an L60. Stocks are always the easiest to negotiate on. Remember, you will be eligible for a target of 10% of your base as stocks and cash bonus each as annual review. If you join this year, expect something in Sept next year.

      All said, I'd concentrate on knowing what team you'd be joining. The difference in pay seems negligible.
      Oct 17
    • Adobe codepro
      OP
      I will be joining Azure Compute team.
      Oct 18
    • Microsoft GTFO++;
      Congrats!
      Oct 18
    • Adobe codepro
      OP
      How is the team?
      Oct 18
  • Also how the f do you have an adobe offer if you’re already in Adobe ?
    Oct 17 1
    • Adobe codepro
      OP
      I was intern at adobe
      Oct 17
  • Google superpower
    I would push for Microsoft in Bay area
    Oct 17 0
  • eBay / Eng
    beach_hair

    eBay Eng

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    beach_hairmore
    Microsoft. Lot of products to move around in. Cheaper place to live and save. Mountains, trees, water, snow, rain, fall.. It is a whole some place to live in.
    Oct 17 0
  • Google sp55
    I would pick microsoft
    Oct 17 0
  • Yoe? Level?
    Oct 17 0
  • Microsoft iamletired
    MSFT offer is much, much higher. Just the lack of income tax alone makes MSFT better not even taking into account COL differences.
    Oct 17 3
    • Adobe codepro
      OP
      Thanks for replying. How do you convert the base of Redmond to its equivalent in Bay Area?
      Oct 17
    • Microsoft iamletired
      including income tax, id say about 30-35% difference
      Oct 17
    • Riverbed Technology tETj16
      That’s about right. But it’s also tricky. I’d go to www.redfin.com and figure out your living situation. (Rental prices, home prices) Then check out nerdwallet.com, they have a cost of living converter. You’ll notice that there are numerous cost of living converters BUT they vary. The true expense is your living arrangement. The MS campus in Redmond is pretty nice, food isnt free but subsidized.
      Oct 17
  • Riverbed Technology tETj16
    MS , but Redmond is different. Single or family to move with?
    Oct 17 3
    • Adobe codepro
      OP
      Single. My fiancé is in Bay Area.
      Oct 17
    • Riverbed Technology tETj16
      Chances are, it’ll depend on what your fiance decides. The MS offer isnt strong enough to swing the tides. But dual income in Bay Area would be. Adobe is a good company, I know people there that’s been there for 10+ years. Adobe is in right place at the right market. Now if MS pushes up TC to same as Adobe, and you’re in Redmond.....
      Oct 17
    • Adobe codepro
      OP
      Thank you for detailed responses. Also, how to convert Redmond salary to equivalent Bay Area salary?
      Oct 17
  • HPE XWDd52
    YOE?
    Nov 8 0
  • Microsoft hisky
    Microsoft. Good pay, good wlb and good benefits.
    Oct 17 0
  • Microsoft GTFO++;
    At least 35-40% difference. Though real estate prices have gone up but they are nowhere as crazy as Bay area. A 2000+ single family built in 2000s with less than 30 min commute to Microsoft can be had for ~1M. Try getting that in the Bay area.
    Oct 17 0

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