Compensation

Microsoft sde 2 salary

Amazon msfter8
Dec 2

Just curious what the range will be for sde 2 at microsoft with someone of 10 year experience. Im currently sde 2 at Amazon and my tc is 235k. I plan to switch to Microsoft as i have been here 4 years.

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  • Microsoft ThisOrThat
    Aim for at least senior
    SDE 2 don’t crack 170k
    Dec 29
    • Amazon msfter8
      OP
      Hold on. Msft pays less than amazon? I thought amazon is infamous for paying lesser than competitors
      Dec 2
    • Microsoft / Eng
      alex9537

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      alex9537more
      No, IT’S Msft paying less than competitors.
      Dec 2
    • Microsoft / Eng
      alex9537

      MicrosoftEng

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      alex9537more
      Only new grad in Msft is comparable to others, experience hire is way less.
      Dec 2
    • Amazon msfter8
      OP
      Ok thats news to me coz i thought everyone complains Amazom tc is lower than there competitors
      Dec 2
    • Microsoft / Eng
      alex9537

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      alex9537more
      Amazon is less than FG, but way more than MS. I saw offers for L61/62 is like 130/50/30, so TC is around 150 only
      Dec 2
    • Microsoft / Eng
      alex9537

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      alex9537more
      And almost all New grad earns more than L61 offer
      Dec 2
    • Amazon msfter8
      OP
      So with 12 year of experience and coming from amazon with 4 years what level and tc at msft should i be targeting. My current tc is around 230k
      Dec 2
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

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      Brazukamore
      Aim for at least L63, preferably 64
      Dec 2
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      Yeah you are an easy 64 at msft
      Dec 2
  • Facebook / Engxenia
    Aim for Senior/L63 with ~$250k TC

    At Microsoft, you have a great WLB.
    Dec 20
  • Microsoft DOyu71
    Here's an offer i saw recently to someone from a fang company. L62, Redmond, 148/180/60. 10% bonus target/11k stock target. That gives you about 235 TC over the 4 years (not incl raises or promos). That doesnt mean that's what every 62 at ms gets, but they will match (or possibly exceed) your current comp if they want you.

    It's unlikely they will hire you at >= l63 as an sde 2 from Amazon. Expectations are different from sde 2 to sr.
    Dec 25
    • Microsoft DOyu71
      62-63 is not a bucket. 61-62 is and 63-64 is. 63 is a different role from 62. I can tell you as an ms hiring manager for 10+ years, that unless there were some other extenuating circumstances, and sde 2 from Amazon wouldnt even get an interview for a sr job in my org.
      Dec 2
    • Amazon msfter8
      OP
      Thank u for the response. So i believe as a sde 2 from amazon, ill be translated directly to a l61-62 at msft but the py at in this level varies based on candidate prior experience and what he currently makes. Just curious why wouldnt u consider sde 2 from amazon for a level 63? A sde 2 from Amazon would be a very capable candidate as compared to others.
      Dec 2
    • Microsoft DOyu71
      Because it's a different role. I expect 63+ to be able to contribute beyond the code they write and even beyond the designs they contribute. Mentorship, driving initiatives across groups and things like that become much more important. That said, there are limited cases where if I was hiring a position that required very specific knowledge I might hire at a higher level in that case. In general, it's a dangerous thing to do because internal folks at 63+ deliver a lot of impact . You dont want to hire someone at a higher level and then have to ding them at review time.
      Dec 2
    • Amazon / R&DATTE75
      How about L64? Amazon underlevels many people, especially relicatinh from Europe
      Dec 3
    • Amazon / R&DATTE75
      @Fiief73. This is an interesting information for me as well. But saying that yo're an SDE2 at Amazon wont look bad if you target for 64? 65 I guess nearly jmpissuble even with 13yoe and phd
      Dec 4
  • Microsoft / Eng
    alex9537

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    Less than 200K if you only get L61/62
    Dec 24
    • Amazon msfter8
      OP
      Whats the senior role about? Is it a coding role or more of a design leadership type of role. Like at amazon sde 3 is senior and has less coding but more design and leading team.
      Dec 2
    • Amazon gudupandit
      Microsoft senior has lot of coding. Having 2-3 senior devs in a single manager team is common. It is more like an experienced SDE 2 who can also take some leadership role as secondary task
      Dec 2
    • Amazon msfter8
      OP
      Whats the pay range for senior then
      Dec 2
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

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      Bain & Company
      Brazukamore
      220-270k
      Dec 2
  • Oracle Parx
    You can get around 210k in total excluding sign-on. Get those RSUs bumped up.
    Dec 22
    • Amazon msfter8
      OP
      For sde 2? Still thats less than what i currently make
      Dec 2
    • Oracle Parx
      You should really be a senior with 10yoe.
      Dec 2

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