Microsoft vs Apple (Hyderabad)

New Jhpm42
Jun 19 17 Comments

I am currently an SDE2 at Amazon with 3yoe in total. I have offers from Microsoft and Apple. I'm having tough time deciding which option to go ahead with?

Could you please comment on factors like quality of work, hike or target percentage, work culture, timings, perks

Work:
1. Microsoft in the wxp (word, excel, powerpoint) mobile team under office. I would be working on building mobile applications. Android applications in java and iOS in Objective C.
2. Apple, I'll be working on big data in Ads team. Tech stack would have hadoop, spark, java, scala, python
I dont have experience in either of the roles above.

Designation:
Microsoft - level 61
Apple - low levelled me to ICT2

How is the bonus percentage at Microsoft? Also, how are the refresher/merit stocks which are allocated during performance reviews at both the companies? What is the percentage of hike on base at both the companies?

How are the stocks allocated going to change on promotion to level 62 or ICT3 at these companies?

Is ICT2 at Apple a low level for me?

Also, what are the chances of transferring to US in either of the companies in terms of exposure?

And, which of them is a bigger tag? :P

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TOP 17 Comments
  • Microsoft giffy
    What is the offer from both the companies, and current TC or else GTFO
    Jun 19 1
  • Apple startnover
    Apple Hyd is shit. And our work culture is horrible. Be prepared to be treated like a slave.
    Jun 19 5
    • Apple fYVJ54
      Lol, my colleague looks to be a disgruntled employee of Apple :). Work might not be that great but culture is definitely not bad. I would like to know how many hours the so called slaves work everyday at Apple?
      Jun 19
    • New Jhpm42
      OP
      Is the work not good? I thought big data with hadoop spark would be great?
      Atleast it looked interesting by the conversation I had with manager
      Jun 19
    • Apple startnover
      YMMV. I am happy your experience of working was not a slogfest, but that doesn’t give you the right to call other peers who experience that daily as disgruntled, jerk.

      There are plenty of engineers who get abused, treated like slaves and vilified for talking by the incompetent middle management.

      If your manager doesn’t like you - he can do everything in his power to block your career or pay and because how our internal move works, he can affect your chances of moving to a different role. And he can still get away with a slap on the wrist at best. Both HR and ER will support him, such is the reality of this company. Apple is a top heavy, if you don’t realize that by now I pity you.
      Jun 19
    • New Jhpm42
      OP
      Also I heard work timings are good as in people leave by 6PM. And no hard deadlines which would require you to slog for long hours at office like Amazon
      Jun 19
    • Microsoft / Eng .netcurry
      So is Microsoft
      Jun 19
  • Microsoft Zumbas
    Current TC and offers? You can't expect to get advice without sharing numbers. Somebody else sharing numbers here will help you in the future.
    Bhagwan tumhara bhala karega.
    Jun 20 0
  • Microsoft / Eng rLcX37
    You won't get international transfer at msft until level 62, and promotions are never that easy. If I were you I'd stay at Amazon another year and then try for L62 at msft.
    Jun 19 2
    • Apple / Eng hollisterb
      This. Same advice for Apple. Try for atleast ICT3
      Jun 19
    • Microsoft / Eng .netcurry
      Don't jump ships at same level or pay. Work will be same, politics will be same. For some initial time you feel good about your new project, teams, etc good. Then it becomes all same and now you want leave that place again
      Jun 19
  • Apple / Eng hollisterb
    I don’t know about Microsoft but Apple has certainly low balled you. My understanding is you don’t get stock refresh ( you may get cash bonus) at ICT2 at Apple unless you perform exceptionally well. Ask for atleast ICT3 otherwise I wouldn’t join. But I don’t have datapoint to compare with MS.
    Jun 19 2
    • New Jhpm42
      OP
      HR said I might receive around 20K USD as stock refreshers?
      Jun 19
    • Apple / Eng hollisterb
      I highly doubt for ICT2. Not sure about India though.
      Jun 19
  • Apple orange23
    You are more likely to get a better answer, if you share the offer numbers
    Jun 20 0
  • Apple LLRK83
    At ICT2, you get 3k stock annually
    Jun 19 0

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