Microsoft vs Facebook in Seattle

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Nov 17, 2017 43 Comments

Assuming you get the same offers from #microsoft and #facebook for high level engineering positions (principal in a great team at Microsoft and E6 at Facebook) in Seattle.

How you would think about choosing the right company? I’m thinking about long term growth potential, future stock refreshers, location of HQ, better schools close to the office, etc.

Thanks for your insights!

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  • Microsoft Rgcdfgc
    If you are E6, you are past the stage where most egotistical/pride thirsty blinders are, and they will tell you to avoid Microsoft like a plague. While I can’t advice on which is better, just be wary of those people swaying your decision towards Facebook just because everyone thinks its cooler. That said, I will choose Facebook over Microsoft unless the team at Microsoft is doing very interesting work.

    P.S I might be one of those guys I warned you about, but I am no where close to e6. Most advice you get on blind will be from < 25 year olds.
    Nov 17, 2017 0
  • Facebook goalo
    Just future stock refreshers alone is sufficient to say Facebook. Commute is gonna suck bad from east side.. rest depends on your team and skills... authority is not for granted here in Facebook like in Microsoft.. u gotta be good at selling work n projects to junior engineers
    Nov 17, 2017 16
    • Microsoft Glued
      66 target stock is 72k and target bonus is 20%
      Nov 18, 2017
    • Microsoft asdfghjke
      Confirming this ^ ... also, max cash bonus is 40%. And it’s not entirely unreasonable to consistently hit 1.3 or 1.4 of target.
      Nov 18, 2017
    • Facebook helpermeth
      Vesting period for stock Grant? You said 72k, over a period of?
      Nov 18, 2017
    • Microsoft 👉🏼..🍆
      5 years total, with 1/10th vesting each 6 months.
      Nov 19, 2017
    • Airbnb Hombrecito
      “Equivalent” in the sense that a L63/64 can leave MSFT and interview for L5 FB without it being a reach.
      Nov 19, 2017
  • Facebook Gufrj40
    Fb recruiter here - candidates are leaving ms in droves to interview with us. I know nothing about ms besides what candidates tell me but I hear it’s very corporate, slow moving and political. You rarely see fb employees go to ms, it’s the other way around
    Nov 17, 2017 3
    • CareerBuilder hdTI13
      As a FB recruiter, how would you know if FB employees left for MSFT?
      Nov 17, 2017
    • Microsoft Rgcdfgc
      And may I know how many of them are principal level engineers ?
      Nov 17, 2017
    • Facebook Gufrj40
      That, I dunno
      Nov 17, 2017
  • Amazon / Eng Rati
    E6 FB and L67 MSFT offers won’t be the same in terms of $. Unless you’re lowballed E6
    Nov 17, 2017 1
    • Microsoft / Eng
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      Can you please elaborate on this?
      Nov 17, 2017
  • Microsoft 🔵Cortana
    Facebook no question. Play politics or get shit done.
    Nov 17, 2017 4
    • Microsoft / Eng
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      At higher levels politics is always important... you have to be able to influence others to get shit done
      Nov 17, 2017
    • Microsoft 🔵Cortana
      Then Microsoft is the place for you.
      Nov 17, 2017
    • Facebook / Other RhVA38
      No it’s not. At Facebook code wins arguments. Show me the data and we ship your thing.
      Nov 18, 2017
    • Microsoft 🔵Cortana
      Hoping a pass my interview 😊
      Nov 18, 2017
  • Microsoft wheeeeeeee
    Either is a good option. I made the choice of going with MS based on the tech I had the opportunity to work on. It really depends on what you would be doing on each team and what you personally like. Maybe just pick the manager you think you align with best. I think that's the best strategy regardless of company. If you end up with a manager you don't get along with the company's clout wont mean much.
    Nov 17, 2017 3
    • Microsoft / Eng
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      I won’t know for sure which Facebook team I’d be landing into after the 8wk bootcamp. I’ve already met with a couple of directors that I really liked. In Microsoft the manager that I met was great
      Nov 17, 2017
    • Microsoft wheeeeeeee
      Sounds like you got some good options. Congrats. Hope it works out for you.
      Nov 17, 2017
    • Facebook goalo
      U will have lot of Microsoft managers n directors n vps at Facebook Seattle
      Nov 17, 2017
  • CareerBuilder hdTI13
    MSFT is the lower risk choice. FB stock will probably end up making you richer in the long term but there's a lot of risk there. If you have kids I'd probably go with MSFT.
    Nov 17, 2017 2
    • Microsoft / Eng
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      Why do you think MSFT is better with kids?
      Nov 17, 2017
    • CareerBuilder hdTI13
      Having never worked at MSFT, it seemingly has a lot more stability.
      Nov 17, 2017
  • Facebook Crowd1
    Both are the same. FB Seattle has all of the MS ppl anyways.
    Nov 17, 2017 0
  • Microsoft $oftie$
    I think FB is more fun. Msft == frequent layoffs. Good luck.
    Nov 17, 2017 0
  • Microsoft New111&3$3
    If you’re thinking about refreshers and growth potential join Facebook. It’s not even a question.
    Nov 20, 2017 0
  • Microsoft cout<<
    Do you want to live in the suburbs and maybe have an office of your own? Is the team one of the smaller groups that run less like the big MS orgs? Do you prefer a slower pace? Do you want your level to make you feel special? If so maybe MS is the right choice.

    Otherwise, I️ think all the other factors likely land in Facebooks court. At least from everything I’ve heard from friends that have gone to FB.
    Nov 18, 2017 0
  • Facebook Gufrj40
    @careerbuilder I just know there’s tons leaving me for fb. It doesn’t seem as though many are going the other route. A quick reverse search on LinkedIn shows me (broadly) that that runs true.
    Nov 17, 2017 0
  • Facebook n00b🤔
    This should not even be a question
    Nov 17, 2017 0
  • Microsoft / Eng
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    What I meant is that I’m assuming in Facebook I’ll have to deal with similar level of politics
    Nov 17, 2017 0

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