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Assuming you get the same offers from #microsoft and #facebook for high level engineering positions (principal in a great team at Microsoft and E6 at Facebook) in Seattle. How you would think about choosing the right company? I’m thinking about long term growth potential, future stock refreshers, location of HQ, better schools close to the office, etc. Thanks for your insights!
E6 FB and L67 MSFT offers won’t be the same in terms of $. Unless you’re lowballed E6
Can you please elaborate on this?
Just future stock refreshers alone is sufficient to say Facebook. Commute is gonna suck bad from east side.. rest depends on your team and skills... authority is not for granted here in Facebook like in Microsoft.. u gotta be good at selling work n projects to junior engineers
Do you have numbers to compare stock refreshers? We haven’t decide where to live yet. We are moving into the area now. Would you live in Seattle if you worked at Fb and had kids?
200k refreshers for e6, vesting over 4 years. Microsoft might give 1/4th
MSFT is the lower risk choice. FB stock will probably end up making you richer in the long term but there's a lot of risk there. If you have kids I'd probably go with MSFT.
Why do you think MSFT is better with kids?
Having never worked at MSFT, it seemingly has a lot more stability.
Either is a good option. I made the choice of going with MS based on the tech I had the opportunity to work on. It really depends on what you would be doing on each team and what you personally like. Maybe just pick the manager you think you align with best. I think that's the best strategy regardless of company. If you end up with a manager you don't get along with the company's clout wont mean much.
I won’t know for sure which Facebook team I’d be landing into after the 8wk bootcamp. I’ve already met with a couple of directors that I really liked. In Microsoft the manager that I met was great
Sounds like you got some good options. Congrats. Hope it works out for you.
Both are the same. FB Seattle has all of the MS ppl anyways.
I think FB is more fun. Msft == frequent layoffs. Good luck.
Facebook no question. Play politics or get shit done.
What I meant is that I’m assuming in Facebook I’ll have to deal with similar level of politics
Fb recruiter here - candidates are leaving ms in droves to interview with us. I know nothing about ms besides what candidates tell me but I hear it’s very corporate, slow moving and political. You rarely see fb employees go to ms, it’s the other way around
As a FB recruiter, how would you know if FB employees left for MSFT?
And may I know how many of them are principal level engineers ?
If you are E6, you are past the stage where most egotistical/pride thirsty blinders are, and they will tell you to avoid Microsoft like a plague. While I can’t advice on which is better, just be wary of those people swaying your decision towards Facebook just because everyone thinks its cooler. That said, I will choose Facebook over Microsoft unless the team at Microsoft is doing very interesting work. P.S I might be one of those guys I warned you about, but I am no where close to e6. Most advice you get on blind will be from < 25 year olds.