Microsoft vs Uber new grad offer

Uber BXbc51
Sep 28, 2017 21 Comments

New grad entry level offers from MS and Uber. Really worried about Uber's future but I interned there and had positive experience. MS is only giving me half as much RSUs as Uber. Should I negotiate and how likely MS will increase their compensation if there are competing offers? Thanks!

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  • Microsoft ass2mouth
    I was in the same situation but I'm now a senior at MSFT. Uber has a lot of growth potential but management is unorganized and unproven. It's a calculated gamble. I'm happy in my choose to join MSFT because I can go from SDE 2-Senior in under 3 years with relatively better job security. Uber is a gamble seniors folks make for RSUs. If you are not in the +1M RSU range I would join Microsoft and get some good experience under your belt then do the startup game for big money when your have cash to float and wait out an IPO.
    Sep 28, 2017 6
    • Dude u screwed up big time. Coulda been a paper millionaire by now instead you're at msft. Super wack bro
      Sep 29, 2017
    • Yea, equity for people joined in 2014 are in $2M to $4M range...
      Sep 29, 2017
    • Microsoft Draaaammm
      How many RSUs would someone who joined as senior in June 2015 gotten? 25k?
      Sep 29, 2017
    • Doesn't matter. You don't have a time machine so who cares.
      Sep 29, 2017
    • Uber MHmx10
      @draaaammm That’s pretty spot on
      Oct 4, 2017
  • Google theverge
    If you are a new grad, don't look at the money, it's too small and meaningless. Look at growth pace, Uber is much faster, go there. Worst case you need to find another job in 2 years, but you can get an l4 in fb/Google whereas at Ms, you still be stuck in slow growth mode.
    Sep 28, 2017 0
  • Microsoft War
    Microsoft gives real money and not paper money
    Sep 28, 2017 0
  • Microsoft / Eng Fffffffft
    I can’t believe no one has mentioned this yet - the offers may seem roughly comparable now, but the yearly refreshes you’ll get at Microsoft will be practically nothing. It’s dependent on performance but regardless it will be 5-10x lower than what you’d receive at Uber. Over time that will make the comp difference huge.

    Beyond that, Microsoft is effectively the new IBM (with the possible exception of Azure). You will learn Microsoft technologies (irrelevant to the rest of the industry) and you’ll learn at a much slower pace vs a place like Uber. Microsoft is a great place to be when you’re okay with the comp and you have a family that you want to focus on. It’s an awful place to start out your career nowadays, when you need to be pushed to grow.

    Really this is a no-brainer even given the questions about Uber’s future
    Sep 29, 2017 0
  • Uber nonamef
    I can't believe new grads are even considering MS when you have Uber offer on hand. You're not in your 50s waiting for retirement, you'll grow way faster at Uber career wise, and even when you leave, Uber brand is much stronger, though it's just a bonus.

    I've been there, you should take the advice from MS guys with a grain of salt, because many of them don't even know what fast paced environment means while still feel grow a lot. The worst thing is you don't know what you don't know. You'll be very likely ended up dealing with politics all the time and working on small features with all the old MS tech stack. Even Uber fails big and your RSU worth $0, you still won't regret.
    Sep 29, 2017 1
    • Microsoft Draaaammm
      It all depends on the team at MS. Quite a few us in Azure work on modern tech stacks like K8s, docker etc. That being said, I won't argue with growth. You'll see more of that at Uber and you'll likely get bigger responsibilities as well. I would pick Uber
      Sep 29, 2017
  • Uber 1357
    I was in the same position few weeks ago. I chose Uber over G, MS, and Snap.
    Sep 29, 2017 1
    • Uber / Eng
      elllllllll

      Uber Eng

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      Uber, Microsoft
      elllllllllmore
      can you share your respective offers?
      Sep 29, 2017
  • New / Eng
    palindrone

    New Eng

    BIO
    Amazon intern returning full time.
    palindronemore
    Whats the new grad msft package these days btw. Im a new grad myself interviewing with them currently
    Sep 28, 2017 0
  • Uber / Eng bag
    Op, picking Uber is a no-brainer. You can go to Microsoft any time later if you want, it will always be around. Uber's ride is more exciting :)

    Also many parts of Microsoft are not considered good externally. Some orgs are good though.

    Microsoft also has had multiple large layoffs.
    Sep 30, 2017 1
    • Microsoft / Eng russia
      Microsoft layoffs are not financially motivated, they are a way to adjust strategy and rehome lower performers. It happens every year.

      But I agree that MS will be around for a while so you could do Uber first. Personally I wouldn't work at Uber just because I don't find their product to be interesting but that's just me.
      Sep 30, 2017
  • Microsoft Sadella
    New grad, I am not sure. They do negotiate / increase it for experienced candidates though. There is no reason to not try negotiating.
    Sep 28, 2017 0
  • Uber / Eng
    Sight

    Uber Eng

    PRE
    Facebook
    Sightmore
    Consider the pros and cons as it pertains to your long term growth. I wouldn’t pay too much attention to RSUs this early in your career.

    Microsoft is established. It is a great place to learn scale and gain exposure to matured systems. It will be less demanding and there will be a broad base of knowledge to pull from.

    Uber will work you hard. You’ll gain exposure to startup culture (both the pros and the cons). You’ll likely have more freedom, but it will come at the cost of chaos and constant restructuring. There is probably more upward mobility at Uber at this point in the game, but I wouldn’t expect to rise into Senior management (they’ll be looking for people who have proven themselves elsewhere for that).

    So to me, this comes down to where you want to be over the long haul and which story will be seen as the best stepping stone. Think long term and you’ll outperform those with short-term mindsets.

    Either way you go, both are good options for a young grad. Congrats and good luck.
    Oct 2, 2017 0
  • Microsoft / Eng
    Freshgrad

    Microsoft Eng

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    Amazon
    Freshgradmore
    OP, did you end up choosing Uber over Microsoft?
    Sep 11, 2018 0
  • Uber / Product
    pop

    Uber Product

    PRE
    Microsoft, Yelp, LinkedIn
    popmore
    Microsoft more than doubled my new grad stocks upon negotiating... with my Uber offer. All my friends that took MSFT have since been promoted though, none at Uber yet. I graduated in 2016. All PM related.
    Sep 30, 2017 0