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Morally right is now apparently Left

Salesforce cold brew
Jan 7

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I mean, I get it. The left hates trump because he comes off stupid... uninformed. (Part of the reason they hate him.) And now I understand that feeling, because this broad is batshit.

However. Since when did the Left be the sole arbiter of what’s “moral?” If I’m a republican, does that make my viewpoints automatically immoral? It doesn’t seem like a way to unite the country. Am I missing something?

Like the nickname “Saint Nancy” because pelosi has mentioned the phrase “morally wrong” about 739373 times in the last month regarding the wall. Who died and gave her the ultimate moral platform for the country?

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  • TripAdvisor owlwise
    Idk, locking up kids seeking refuge in cages sounds pretty immoral to me.
    Jan 729
    • @owlwise, you’re avoiding the question. How much is too much?
      Jan 8
    • Google / MgmtDian
      Idiot leftist scums in this thread. All Communists need to be rounded up and locked up.

      Obama deported more immigrants than any president in history including Trump, idiot leftists need to learn and stop yapping. https://www.economist.com/united-states/2017/12/14/donald-trump-is-deporting-fewer-people-than-barack-obama-did

      While you're at it, learn this too: https://www.vox.com/2018/6/21/17488458/obama-immigration-policy-family-separation-border
      Jan 8
    • Facebook / Engtynext
      Read your sources. I already knew Obama deported more. That's not what were talking about but you guys love to move the goalposts so nice try. We're talking about locking kids away from their families not locking up families or unaccompanied minors. Illegal immigration is going down and more are leaving then coming in. It's the right that's convinced this isnt happening. It's the right that's convinced crime isn't going down. It's feelings over facts for you.
      Jan 8
    • ^ Calm down and just keeping coding
      Jan 8
    • Google / MgmtDian
      Read the second link you buffoon - Obama caused more family separations than Trump. Fix your ideological brainwashing first. The whole issue about kids at the border is a narrative leftist scums have started to gain a sympathy vote from simpleton folks amenable to theatrics and brainwashing. Most of those kids are being trafficked and used as a front for family immigration, they're not really being separated. In many cases some of those kids were sent as accompanying sex slaves for the men who wanted to use them to get past the border. Grow up, scum.
      Jan 8
    • Facebook / Engtynext
      Ok so now you know they're being used as sex slaves. So do you think we should keep them in the states or deport them? Does your disgust end once they're off US soil? Don't pretend like that's why we're doing this. And once again I'm not talking about unaccompanied minors. If you still want to deport them all why do you even care if they're sex slaves? Or do you have some sort of delusion like @appleseed where you think they're better off being sent back no matter what or that "the left/Obama" started this?
      Jan 8
    • Google / MgmtDian
      Because if you keep em, it's a sign of encouragement for the rest of them to continue with this business. Because it's not our responsibility to absorb the victims of the world. Because we have limited resources and have citizens to spend those resources on first before righting the wrongs in the rest of the world. Because we're not weak on crime. Because we keep our borders strong, just like we keep our homes secured. We prefer people knock on our door and enter our home with our approval and respect, and not approach us as homeless beggars sneaking past the backyard fence to get in and then when they're caught, cry foul and make a hue and cry of sympathy in the entire neighborhood with the encouragement of leftists who profit from their votes. Those are the scums we keep out. And you too.
      Jan 8
    • New / Engi i i
      @Facebook that 'grant asylum to some' is basically an invitation to try their chances (known fact that illegals make multiple attempts). If approval rate is not extremely low, the border crossing line will still invite folks.
      Fun fact: most deported families whose kids were separated declined to take them back.
      If people dont want to be separated from thier kids, they should not cross the border illegally.
      Jan 8
    • Google / MgmtDian
      ^ he/she won't get it. They're blinded by the theatrics of the left with the images of those poor crying babies. Also likely they have a low IQ.
      Jan 8
    • Facebook / Engtynext
      Got it just confirming you don't actually care if they're sex slaves. Just another card to play to cover for the orange idiot in office.
      Jan 8
  • Facebook / Engtynext
    When has one congressman ever represented an entire political ideology? People from all sides of any spectrum say stupid shit all the time and lie. I don't pretend trump or any single GOP congressman represents the whole right and visa versa for the left.

    There is nothing wrong with being conservative. I think if you support the GOP party in 2019 there has to be a couple things wrong with your thought process.
    Jan 73
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      VertivcoEng

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      Youtube, American Bureau of Shipping, Facebook
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      > Complains about people's thought process
      > Says "GOP party"
      Jan 7
    • Facebook / Engtynext
      Oh shit you got me. I've been exposed!
      Jan 7
    • Google / EngH🤞🏻🙀☠️
      Lmao that was the most childish shit I’ve ever seen picking on grammar
      Jan 7
  • Facebook public2
    "The left" lol. Politics isn't binary. You can be conservative on some things and liberal on others. People are spectrums. Let's end the us vs them and grow up?
    Jan 71
    • Microsoft / Eng
      MP3

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      Troll living under the I-5 overpass
      MP3more
      OP is in middle school and they are having an introduction to politics right now. Give him a break, please.
      Jan 7
  • Salesforce cold brew
    OP
    Listen, I hate giving this woman attention. I find her incredibly young, and acting on feelings. That being said, the reason I posted this, is because I have been accused by liberal friends of lacking morality. (Now I’m acting on feelings but I’m not a politician.) I don’t think it’s moral for someone to shoot a cop in Newman CA when he should have been deported not once but twice. I’m just really tired of the left/liberals/democrats claiming they are the only “moral” folks in this land. Compassionate, I’ll give you that. The law is not always compassionate. But why do the lives of illegals come before US citizens? If you break the law, you suffer the consequences. And until you have immigration reform to keep kids out of cages.... compassion may have to take a backseat.
    Jan 73
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      No one is arguing what you are arguing. But a single cop being shot doesn't make a trend. It's a question of priorities and illegal immigration has been going down since before Trump.

      Are you as passionate about the plague of white men shooting school kids? What are you doing about that?
      Jan 7
    • Amazon what¿
      "The lives of illegals come before US citizens"

      is a red herring argument.
      Jan 8
    • Flagged by the community.

  • Microsoft Big Pun
    Funny how the party of Trump is accusing Democrats of dividing the country or not trying to unite.

    fuck outta here
    Jan 70
  • Microsoft unfanged
    I think the word you are looking for is not moral but compassionate.
    Jan 70
  • Credit Karma EllisDee25
    The OP understands that until the last decade or so, the Republicans were supported by large groups with names like the Moral Majority... right?

    And their entire campaign against Bill Clinton was on the grounds of “moral character”... right?

    I mean don’t both parties claim to uphold a “moral” vision for America?

    As for the left however - who said we want to be seen as motherf***ing moral?
    Jan 89
    • “As for the left however - who said we want to be seen as motherf***ing moral?”

      I think this is no longer a shared view by the left. If it were I’d appreciate the la lot eft more. They’re no longer intellectually honest so they fall back upon “virtues and morality”
      Jan 8
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      Who, what? Be concrete.
      Jan 8
    • Democratic Party represented the disposed of social hierarchies. This is no longer the case, now it about group identity politics.
      Jan 8
    • Oath / MgmtAtinlay
      They fall back on the “virtues and morality” set by them and imposed on everyone else.
      Jan 8
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      Ah, well the Democratic Party is not “left”... it’s been run by “centrist” “3rd way” groups and individuals since the 1990s.

      And like I said, both parties claim to uphold a moral vision of America. “Individual responsibility” “traditional values” “law-abiding”... these aren’t moralistic bits of Republican boilerplate?

      As for identity politics. Yes, there is quite a bit of moralism wrapped up in that. It’s useless. That’s why I hope that politics shift from liberal approaches to a more militant revolutionary anti-racism.
      Jan 8
    • I can’t tell if your being facetious with that last statement. But curios, do you actually witness or experience racism (or perhaps prejudice is a better word) on a frequent basis?
      Jan 8
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      Yeah, I’ve seen it randomly as well as in past jobs I’ve had. But that kind of individual thing is besides the point. Racism in the US is structural - personal bigotry is an after-effect.
      Jan 8
    • Well, I’m what you may call a “minority” and have not experienced it once in my +10 at 4 different companies. I think personal experience trumps what a read in the news.

      What do you mean racism is structural?
      Jan 8
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      The media downplays racism as just the acts of “rotten apples” and spends other segments promoting the very policies and politics that bolster structural racism.

      Structural racism is like redlining in the past or policing policy today... in the past the racism was overt, now it’s “colorblind” meaning that the courts don’t recognize structures of racism... a police officer can arrest only Latinos all day and can even say “I think only Latinos are drug dealers”... but as long as the cop doesn’t say “I’m only arresting people because of their ethnicity and no other reason, the courts have ruled that it’s not racism.

      It’s these structural things that give rise to personal bigotry. Cops target poor black neighborhoods for crimes done by various groups equally (drug use) then the media hyped it up and claims that tough policing is needed because these are not “ordinary” criminals. Then the average person starts to believe they hype and thinks that blacks must be inherently violent or unlawful.

      You can ignore a social/historical and data driven view of racism in favor of personal experiences - just like talk radio people can mock “global warming” on a cold day. Mechanical empiricism and anecdotes alone can be helpful, but can also be misleading.

      Out of curiosity, did you work those jobs in offices? Have you worked in service, hospitality, or logistics?
      Jan 8
  • Salesforce cold brew
    OP
    What am I doing? I’m voting for politicians who protect our second amendment and the training of teachers in schools. What are you doing about all the black kids being shot by other black kids? I mean really. There is plenty of crime here that has entered the country illegally. Not to mention the destruction and trash in the desert. The overcrowding of cities and schools. Maybe we need an asylum option. But for now, we need to protect our borders, empower ice to do their jobs, deport those with overstayed visas, and crack down on people who come here for the sole purpose of giving birth, and bringing their whole families in. It’s not just about the border, or Mexicans, or even Central Americans. The US, while it can be a vibrant melting pot, must be a legal one.
    Jan 75
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      Protecting our second amendment? What training of teachers? Is there any that has found to be effective against white incels? You sound like a crazy trumpster.

      Crack down on people who come here for having babies? That's pretty legal even if it's mostly wealthy foreigners who do that. It's also written into our constitution. Good luck.

      Look our priorities are just different. I want to protect the people who are already in the US, based on evidence of what works. Also did you really just make a dog whistle to 'black on black' crime? What a piece of shit you are.
      Jan 7
    • Apple hMWF54
      Teachers with guns is a stupid stupid idea. Teachers are there to teach, not guard. If you want guards then go to prison, you’ll be safe.

      This second amendment is a disgrace and responsible for way too many deaths.
      Jan 8
    • Oath / MgmtAtinlay
      If you don’t protect yourself, who will? Not the government! The average 911 response in the US is 20 mins. Good luck!
      Jan 8
    • Apple hMWF54
      Ask yourself why US is so dangerous? Statistically close to Central America countries.
      Jan 8
    • Oath / MgmtAtinlay
      Because danger is everywhere and your side keeps letting in the people from Central America.

      The US is great, sorry you can’t see that from inside your bubble. Don’t you dare disparage my rights.
      Jan 8
  • Google / EngrRPD43
    Morality is relative. How is this news?
    Jan 75
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      No it's not. Is murdering someone on the street moral? Somethings are clear and immoral.
      Jan 7
    • Pinterest iuxp08
      How about if that Person is hitler?
      Jan 7
    • Microsoft SatyaClaus
      It’s not if you claim you are “standing your ground”.
      Jan 7
    • Google / EngrRPD43
      It depends on the person.
      Jan 7
    • Amazon what¿
      @owlwise, what if they first were trying to rob you, got nervous and in a panic decided to kill or shoot you, if at that moment you are faster and kill them, that would be self defense.
      Not every action is moral or not without context and the specific situation.
      Jan 7
  • Intel UrMomma
    She is the new left - progressive progress in action.
    Jan 70
  • Apple / Ops^H^H^H
    I’m a liberal, but the right keeps shining the spotlight on her and the media eats it up. She’s getting far too much attention.
    Jan 70
  • Amazon what¿
    To be fair, she stated that but Cooper did not let it slide and interrupted, "but being factually correct is important."
    CNN is very left, so it is meaningful that he called her out.
    Jan 70
  • Snowflake Computing uCantSee
    This moral high ground is what leads to imperialism. That imperialism is what leads to supremacy. You figure the rest.
    Jan 82
    • Amazon what¿
      (raises hand)✋
      Jan 8
    • Snowflake Computing StuffedCat
      You have way too much time on your hands to create a meme.
      Jan 8
  • Oracle Gugh
    It’s the left’s standard practice nowadays. Why? Because they have no arguments. Morality is one’s weapon when running out of reasoning or logic. Sadly there is little morality in modern progressivism to begin with.
    Jan 80
  • Amazon yohuna
    Jan 70
  • New me2you.
    First ask who defined morality? Then ask who codifies it into law?

    Humans......

    And then there is relative morality.
    Jan 70
  • Google l4fw9c
    Couldn't they pick a less Charles Manson-esque mugshot of her 😂
    Jan 80
  • Apple hMWF54
    There was a GOP morality that has been lost with total support for Trump. Those politicians criticizing his behavior leave politics shortly after.
    Jan 80
  • Microsoft *cW2x91p
    She is a dumbass.
    Jan 70
  • Salesforce cold brew
    OP
    And isn’t TripAdvisor in the bluest of blue northeast states? Have you ever even been to ca or az? I was raised in Southern California, near the border. Let me know how you are an expert on this.
    Jan 70
  • Salesforce cold brew
    OP
    Birth tourism is not illegal but you really want to protect it? What a piece of shit you are.

    gle.com/amp/s/kkkk://www.newsweek.com/feds-raid-maternity-hotels-birth-tourists-777643%3Famp%3D1
    Jan 70
  • Groupon AHC69
    Tru
    Jan 70

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