Most managers at tech companies...

SurveyMonkey / Eng Prlypoopin
Jan 31, 2018 32 Comments

Are completely fucking useless. Am I wrong?

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  • Reddit Dqwert43
    When I was a junior engineer I do not see the value of seniors in my team and always thought I contributed much more. When I was an engineer I did I not understand the necessity of mgrs as well, until I became one myself. They do a lot of “invisible” work(to you) so that you do not need to worry about it and get directions on which project you will be working on. Work hard to get promoted to be at least a tech lead role then you will understand
    Jan 31, 2018 0
  • Apple StYE24
    I think that some good managers exist, but I really dislike mine. I don’t think he understands what is going on and never wants to look bad. On the bright side he lets his employees do pretty much anything
    Jan 31, 2018 3
    • SurveyMonkey / Eng Prlypoopin
      OP
      I think this is exactly the problem though. Accountability is an issue when managers are useless and don’t do any real work so they let engineers do whatever they want and take as much time as they want. And engineers don’t care to work that hard for their manager who doesn’t do anything except smile and nod their head
      Jan 31, 2018
    • Apple StYE24
      Yep what I get frustrated about is it feels like it doesn’t matter if I work hard or I do the minimum possible effort
      Jan 31, 2018
    • LinkedIn RandomSwe
      For me, I would love to have a manager giving me full freedom. Mine have always been overbearing.
      Jan 31, 2018
  • Microsoft QRZj34
    A good manager is identifying and hopefully retaining talent (that's a skill), setting team direction and priorities, advocating for your team at really high levels so the business doesn't demand an impossible feature, oh and being the "throat to choke" if the team fails, showing good judgement, managing issues before they get escalated to HR, and in general setting the team up for success. So maybe they don't code anymore , they have other skills that devs certainly don't have.
    Jan 31, 2018 0
  • Microsoft trolololo
    People managers? They serve a purpose that most of us techies don't see. Without them providing visibility for you and doing non-tech tasks you can't do, you'd be in a no-visibility rabbit hole.
    Jan 31, 2018 8
    • SurveyMonkey / Eng Prlypoopin
      OP
      Id rather deal with people issues myself then have a babysitter do it for me.. but thats just me. I can actually see the use here. But how often do situations like this come up? I think there should be managers just not nearly the volume we see today at most companies
      Jan 31, 2018
    • SurveyMonkey / Eng Prlypoopin
      OP
      Nah bruh, not at surveymonkey where we have a “no dick” policy and everyones a pushover
      Jan 31, 2018
    • Twitter
      BFFk82

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      Why does the baby sitter need to be higher in the org hierarchy and gets more salary?
      Jan 31, 2018
    • Microsoft trolololo
      Your manager is your liaison for the skips. He/she will fight for your interests while you code/perform tasks that pertain to your position. HR? Really? If everyone would bitch to HR, they'd stop responding in a week. Your career interests are your manager's work. If you want to complain about managers, then you have a bad manager.
      Jan 31, 2018
    • Twitter shdjskpqpn
      Lol my manager is actually the worst people person on the team
      Feb 2, 2018
  • Cisco BBD
    I’ve had 7 managers in 10 years. Four have been excellent, especially a senior director who allowed me to grow my career, promoted me once I proved myself, and advocated for me outside of the team to create opportunities for me to continue to grow. And he does much of that for his reports who show initiative.

    I’d follow that guy into hell if he needed me to.
    Jan 31, 2018 2
    • Microsoft trolololo
      I might have the same Sr. Director as you...at MSFT :)
      Jan 31, 2018
    • Cisco BBD
      We are lucky, indeed!
      Jan 31, 2018
  • New / Eng Millions
    Good people managers are definitely needed. I like them better if they had engineering background or rose in the ranks. Day to day politics cannot be handled by nerds and techies. It’s a rare skill set and no wonder managers get paid more than engineers.
    Jan 31, 2018 1
    • SurveyMonkey / Eng Prlypoopin
      OP
      “Day to day politics cannot be handled by nerds and techies”. “I like them better if they had engineering background or rose in the ranks”.
      Jan 31, 2018
  • Amazon
    Psycopath

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    Psycopathmore
    You haven't seen a good one yet.
    Jan 31, 2018 1
    • Oracle managment
      Your username explains the reason why you can NOT see 😆
      Jan 31, 2018
  • Credit Karma CjCB07
    All of my managers have been incredible
    Jan 31, 2018 0
  • Amazon xEon51
    Imo managers that joke about their uselessness are much better managers
    Jan 31, 2018 0
  • Microsoft NUJa27
    My manager is fantastic. Previous manager from another company... Literally worthless.
    Jan 31, 2018 1
    • Apple b00
      How so? What do you like about him/her?
      Jan 31, 2018
  • Twitter shdjskpqpn
    Honestly tech leads are more relevant than manager imo
    Feb 2, 2018 0
  • Cisco Lowlow
    What i feel is technical managers lack people skills and people manager lack technical skills. Its really necessary to find that sweet spot where you are both
    Feb 1, 2018 0
  • New mamu
    My last manger was gate keeper , only making note of time in and time out. In some places consultant job really sucks.
    Jan 31, 2018 0
  • Twitter
    BFFk82

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    Yes totally worthless. Most of them have no fucking idea what's going on.
    Jan 31, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng DaleCarneg
    Mine is good, but I've had useless ones, so I believe you.
    Jan 31, 2018 0
  • Qualcomm / Eng LongHiking
    Can't speak for other companies, but in Qualcomm it's 100% true.
    Jan 31, 2018 0