Moving from India to USA

Flipkart csaw
Aug 2 84 Comments

I'm a product manager with 6 YoE. I'm looking to move to USA. I'm looking to apply for roles in companies that will eventually help me get to the US. Are companies open to relocation employees to USA after seeing them work and preform well for some time? Which companies can take me there fastest? Which companies have stringent/unreliable policies?

PS: I don't have work authorization in USA. I haven't started my job hunt. I'm willing to relocate to other places in/outside India to eventually get to USA.

comments

Want to comment? LOG IN or SIGN UP
TOP 84 Comments
  • Facebook BeingCoder
    It's fascinating to see how you wake up one fine morning and decide to relocate immediately to US.
    Aug 2 9
    • Flipkart csaw
      OP
      It is a pretty standard term.

      From Wikipedia:
      From a corporate perspective, "Tribal Knowledge or know-how is the collective wisdom of the organization. It is the sum of all the knowledge and capabilities of all the people"

      I really meant experiences of people who've done this before or know someone who have.
      Aug 2
    • Microsoft wndws
      Welcome to America- anyone can sue you for anything 😄
      Aug 2
    • Intel / Other SobSwan
      1. With H1Bs favouring MS grads, it is going to be difficult to get H1B lottery

      2. Read up the H1 rules very carefully. It is all rosy until you are PIP/ laid off.. and u got 60 days. H1 transfer is taking months.

      3. Is your India experience going to count ?

      4. Who will give you a job & wait for H1 to be picked ?

      5. There will be a price to pay... Time apart from family... u will realize after u spend few years here..and visa issues kick you hard.
      Aug 2
    • Flipkart csaw
      OP
      Thank you for making these points. It helps.

      #3 it should count if I don't go through the MS route and instead go through a job route

      #4 don't think this is common. Will probably have to get an L1

      #5 a lot of people have said something like this in the other comments
      Aug 2
    • Oath puSc85
      Now now. We are coming to the point. L1a is the only route. That means you will be able to cut the line and get a gc before these poor blinders. Good luck.
      Aug 2
  • VMware fucx
    Why do you want to come to USA? Don't come on H1B. Marry a US citizen or something but not H1B.
    Aug 2 5
    • Indeed indood
      Yeah because a US citizen is gonna be like omg an Indian! I wanna marry them!
      Aug 2
    • Facebook BeingCoder
      Indeed. No doubt.
      Aug 2
    • Flipkart csaw
      OP
      Interesting. Why do you not recommend an H1B?

      I want to come to US cause I see that it is the hub for a lot of cutting edge work being done. As a pm I may get to work in different spaces such as education or healthcare in more established companies.
      Some of my friends happen to work on some very exciting projects.
      I think US would be an interesting option to explore for a few years given that I've only worked in India so far and I may not be in a state to move as easily/explore later on in my life.
      Aug 2
    • VMware fucx
      Haven't you guys seen news like gori from Germany marrying Indian dudes after chatting over Facebook.
      Aug 2
    • Microsoft wndws
      What kinda “news” do you read dude 🤦🏻‍♂️
      Aug 2
  • Cisco edchavle
    I wish I stayed in India. US is just overrated and mundane. US probably is a decade ahead of India in infrastructure and convenience but India will catch up in another decade. Be a part of that transition and stay put!
    Aug 2 8
    • Cisco edchavle
      What you said are probably true but the positives beat the negatives you mentioned. After all, nothing feels like home like the place you were raised in. It might be uncomfortable but I don't mind those discomforts too as it offers way more than other places.
      On a non-emotional level, most of issues you mentioned would not effect you in your every day life. Summers are hot but not unbearable. Roads get flooded but only for a week in two years. Competition in education is similar to the competition amongst all the Asian and Indian kids in Bay Area. Every place has its issues. It depends on the fact if you want to live with them or not.
      Aug 2
    • Facebook BeingCoder
      I'm not denying those things. One thing which might be true is that people won't respect you enough if you don't show off how much money/power you have compared to US where almost everyone respects everyone else in general.
      Aug 2
    • Cisco edchavle
      I get what you're saying and yes, it's true that things work based on the money or connections you have unlike US where every individual is treated the same in general. It's not an easy aspect to change in India and it probably won't change for some time. I agree that's a huge minus but not something that prevents me from moving back.
      Aug 3
    • VMware fucx
      Move to a small college town like Mussoori, Nanital, Shimla, etc. The infrastructure there isn't that bad and world class education.
      Aug 3
    • Splunk sli
      Once you have money, philosophy of happy life kicks in.
      Aug 3
  • Microsoft wndws
    Currently the trump company can kick you out fastest.
    Aug 2 9
    • Intel / Other SobSwan
      Wash your utensils , go grocery shopping and clean your shit. Sounds flimsy.. but try doing it yourself for 3 months...
      Aug 2
    • Citrix Systems / Eng ಅವನೌನ ಹಡಾ
      Grass is never greener on other side. Op what the fuck man. so many ppl are telling you not to come. All these are from USA and even I am telling you not to come. It’s a booby trap. You will realize once you start working.
      Aug 2
    • Hitachi Vantara / Other vataran
      More importantly why do you want to move.
      Aug 2
    • Flipkart csaw
      OP
      Dayum. Will ponder over these.

      I want to move cause I love what I'm doing but I want to see what's outside. I feel like a frog in the well. I'm willing to come back if things don't work out. The cost of that, however, is unknown to me and I think I should evaluate it.
      Aug 2
    • Facebook BeingCoder
      @intel utensils are washed by a dish washer, grocery delivery is done through app, hiring a cleaning service for every two weeks costs $150.
      Aug 2
  • Microsoft Burrrrrp!
    Bye Ma. Bye Pa. Hello Uncle Sam.
    Aug 2 0
  • Lyft ccxdr
    Getting directly hired into US for s PM role is unlikely. There are too many PMs here but very much in need of engineers. If you are an engineer then your chances are higher.

    Best route is to join a company like Google, Microsoft, Amazon (haven't heard of anyone else making it easy for internal transfer cross country except these 3 companies) on India work for 1-2 years before finding an internal position in US thus to move to US.

    That's what I did through Microsoft.
    Aug 2 7
    • Medallia qwertyca
      Why l1 to h1? Just get priority date on l1 and do whatever else
      Aug 3
    • Lyft ccxdr
      Priority date for Indians and Chinese is 5+ years away. Long queues.
      Aug 3
    • Medallia qwertyca
      L1 priority still better than h1
      Aug 3
    • Adobe adhoc-bee
      How common is L1 in MSFT? Have known Amazon and Google for the internal transfer from India to US. Hearing it common in microsoft for the first time.
      Aug 3
    • Lyft ccxdr
      Lot of people move from Microsoft India to Microsoft USA. For eg: 70% of my team in India moved to US over the span of 5 years. These numbers are similar for Google and Amazon too.
      Aug 3
  • New / Eng
    chiefchuck

    New Eng

    PRE
    SAP
    BIO
    8+ Years exp software guy
    chiefchuckmore
    Surprisingly none of the comments are constructive for OP till now. If I had something to offer I would have done it already but trollong isn't helping at all. Why so much hate?
    Aug 2 3
    • Oracle marriedM
      It's not hate. It's wishing well for someone, to stop them from falling into a trap. I have people in my team who tell me they want to leave, but they have invested too much into the H1B job. I feel like telling everyone who isn't here to not move here. It's much nicer to keep visiting.
      Aug 2
    • Facebook BeingCoder
      What exactly is the investment that is stopping them from leaving?
      Aug 2
    • Oracle marriedM
      6-8 years on H1B visas and counting.
      Aug 2
  • Credit Karma Yippeee
    H1B on PM even if picked up will be difficult to get approved. You are 99% going to get RFE in current climate. Some of my SWE friends at FAANG got RFE!
    Secondly, experience outside US will not have much value in job hunt.
    Third, visa will haunt you while switching jobs, specially if USCIS suspends premium processing & you wanna switch job.
    Fourth, no company is gonna wait for you till you get H1B. If you are really serious, come on F1, work on OPT and keep applying H1B, that's your best chance.
    Personal experience - US Master's but didn't got H1B 2 times despite rules in advanced degree favor this year. Next year is my last chance! The picture is not rosy unless you have Green Card or have hopes of getting GC.
    Aug 2 2
    • Flipkart csaw
      OP
      Points one through three are heartbreaking.
      I'm evaluating MBA/MS as a potential option.
      Thanks for sharing your experience Yippeee. Best of luck for the next try.
      Aug 2
    • Verisk Analytics pinkfloyd🎸
      Hang in there Karma, my H1b application was picked in the third and final attempt. And was approved without any RFE within 3 weeks. So yeah hope for the best.
      Aug 3
  • New / Product GRHw77
    Look, life is good here. But, is it worth leaving everything back in India and come here for salary of $300k - given you will become good in some years not now - in SV?

    NOT worth it

    Try harder and get into MS or Google India. Making 60+ lacs will be better life than 300k in SV (Some years down the line if you make it)
    Aug 2 10
    • New / Product GRHw77
      Everybody has different opinion here. I am telling you from experience here. My TC is $200k in Texas. No state tax and very low CoL. I don't wouldn't even consider SV for anything less than $350k (even after that, I have decision to make). I just don't see any value in place where cost is so high. I can't even buy a decent house and get kids decent education. I am telling you perspective of a 28 year old
      Aug 2
    • Facebook BeingCoder
      @GRHw77 are you married with kids?
      Aug 2
    • New / Product GRHw77
      No kids yet. Planning on having soon
      Aug 2
    • Medallia qwertyca
      🤣300k rofl no way Jose!!! You need to be rocket scientist material to have all those expectations at once
      Aug 2
    • Facebook BeingCoder
      I feel 28 is too young to think about owning a house unless you get a windfall/gift for down-payment. Median age should be early 30s when things are more stable.
      Aug 2
  • Netflix Atinlay2
    🙄
    Aug 2 2
  • Amazon / Eng
    UTukMyJerb

    Amazon Eng

    PRE
    Electronic Arts (EA)
    UTukMyJerbmore
    Aug 3 0
  • Medallia qwertyca
    Frankly there are better options for you to try. Canada/Germany both have good visa policies. Think through again over your reasons to keep USA as target.

    I don’t think working on cutting edge or reasons you mentioned above are country dependent. Given that it’s pm role you could achieve the same in India. Be honest with self. You would find the options.

    Anyhow getting h1/l1 through current employer is your best bet. Nothing else is safe
    Aug 2 0
  • Hitachi Vantara / Other vataran
    Move to Walmart e-commerce and network and get relocated to US offices. Simple.
    Aug 2 3
    • Flipkart csaw
      OP
      Is it easy to move from Walmart India to the US?
      Aug 2
    • Hitachi Vantara / Other vataran
      Why don't you find out. You'll be eligible for l1 visa if you are already worked for Flipkart for more than a year
      Aug 2
    • Flipkart csaw
      OP
      The processes to move between Flipkart and Walmart are not set up.
      It is relatively easy to move between myntra, phone pe and Flipkart. For Walmart, you'd have to resign.

      But I'll explore this further.
      Aug 2
  • Oracle marriedM
    Why, what's the attraction?
    Aug 2 3
    • Flipkart csaw
      OP
      Good question. I've answered it in other replies.
      Aug 2
    • Oracle marriedM
      Step out of Flipkart. We send all our work to India from American companies.
      Aug 2
    • Flipkart csaw
      OP
      😃
      Okay sure. That does happen. But satellite offices may not get as much attention as head offices. Besides, I'm also looking for a change in environment generally. Not cause what's now is bad; just to explore.
      Aug 2
  • PayPal kkka
    India is better than US.
    Aug 2 2
    • There is no such thing as a better country in general. It really depends on how you see it.

      Any country has its pros and cons
      Aug 2
    • Amazon / Eng
      weeeeeeee

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      AWS
      weeeeeeeemore
      Net migration definitely disagrees.
      Aug 2
  • Amazon jQpf16
    You havent stated the real reason have you? The falling Ruppee, the declining Inidan economy. thats why everyone is here TC. India is going to be unliveable very soon, so everyone inlcuding you is trying to get out.
    Aug 6 1
    • Credit Karma Dhxuhwbdh
      Unliveable? Everyone in US doesn't have intent to settle here, many would go back.
      Unliveable is exaggeration, and falling currencies doesn't indicate anything. If you know economics, you would never judge a country based on their currency!
      US overpays for tech so not only Indian, everyone is here. That is no indication of unliveable circumstances in their home country. FYI - outside US, India pays relatively more salary than even Canada for MNC so I don't see how that's unliveable.

      "My fellow Americans, don't ask what the country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country".
      Indians who intend to settle here are selfish & most of them did nothing much for country than complain after coming here.
      Aug 6
  • Bloomberg NEWZ<GO>
    Here is the thing
    You will make more money and have a comfortable life.
    But won’t have a sense of belonging or the appetite to do long term investment like housing.
    This is because of long waiting times for permanent residence.
    I make more money than I ever imagined but a lot of restless unsettled feelings
    Aug 3 0
  • Do you qualify for a O1?
    Aug 3 1
    • Flipkart csaw
      OP
      Doubt it. I'm not extraordinarily talented.
      Aug 3
  • Google 🎖Me🐎
    FAANG companies can sponsor you the visa provided you are extra ordinary. H1 would not be good as your spouse cannot work and you need to forever wait for GC and citizenship.
    Else work for one of these companies in India and invest ~2 years and then move on L1. But who knows the conditions after 2 years.
    Best possible solution I can think of- Getting Canada PR is easy at your age. Quality of life is good there as well. It's easier to come US from Canada in comparison to India.
    Aug 6 0