Moving from Microsoft to Huawei in Bellevue

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drbrown

Microsoft Other

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HPE
drbrownmore
Oct 14, 2017 55 Comments

I recently got what appears to be a nice offer from Huawei in Bellevue.
I am at 63 in Microsoft working on a technology that is hot at the moment. I feel underappreciated by my current management chain.
Huawei came and without almost any effort on my side they made an offer for senior architect for what amounts for 35% more than my current salary. If I include the signing bonus , it pretty much amounts to a 56% increase. It's not something I can just ignore.

Anyway, is it worth it? Especially if I am not Chinese. Alternatively, is this something good enough to use to negotiate my situation at Microsoft? It seems to me that even if it sucks , in one year I can try Google or Facebook and be on a much better position to negotiate.

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TOP 55 Comments
  • Microsoft tspkjt
    Your life will be more miserable but you will have more money
    Oct 14, 2017 0
  • Microsoft preciousti
    If anything you can increase your worth when returning to Microsoft or the other companies.
    Oct 14, 2017 0
  • Microsoft / Eng Gs4478
    Dont even bother if you’re not Chinese. I interviewed there - bad experience - could hardy understand what the interviewer was asking/saying.
    Oct 14, 2017 3
    • Microsoft / R&D ps1writer
      Why don't think this is a timing for learning Chinese?
      Oct 15, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng Gs4478
      I think it’s timing for learning English for you.
      Oct 16, 2017
    • LinkedIn / Other
      pabloesc

      LinkedIn Other

      BIO
      Blind Designer. Not literally
      pabloescmore
      Hey why are you both discriminating against Senegalese?
      Oct 18, 2017
  • Microsoft Hyad70
    Chinese companies will always consider you an outsider - Corp culture is as odd as Jeff Bezos' Amazon
    Oct 14, 2017 0
  • Microsoft sammysa76
    I would go, change is good. Plus you are getting much better pay that the current and anyways you mentioned you are going to try for Google or Facebook in a year or so, then it doesn’t really matter if you stay at Microsoft or not. I was in a similar situation couple of months back and I decided to leave my company and it turned out to be a great decision. New company people are awesome and appreciate my work which really gives you a great satisfaction when you leave work at the end of day and it motivates you next morning to come back there in a positive way. Hope this helps. Best of luck.
    Oct 14, 2017 1
    • Microsoft / Eng
      bod

      Microsoft Eng

      BIO
      in cloud business
      bodmore
      you went from which company to which?
      Oct 15, 2017
  • Microsoft physclyfit
    Good company. You will feel appreciated
    Oct 14, 2017 1
    • Microsoft TSRx34
      Lofuckingl
      Oct 14, 2017
  • Microsoft Mo$MoProbs
    Even if you work there for a year and don't like it, you can always move back/go to Google/MS

    Also, when you have a competing offer, managers at MS have discretion to offer you a bonus of a few thousand a year. (Just in case you'd rather stay at MS)
    Oct 14, 2017 1
    • Microsoft / Other drbrown
      OP
      Yes, that is also something I am considering. Is 35% a good enough difference to get them to reconsider improving my situation?
      Some of my friends have left for FB and Google for twice their salary.
      Oct 14, 2017
  • Google / Product fan_person
    Have you read about Huawei's history? Do you really want to work for a company like that?!
    Oct 14, 2017 1
    • Microsoft / Eng Mapmdl
      I also read about Microsoft, Google and Facebook history, and I don't see a problem.
      Oct 18, 2017
  • Microsoft / Other
    KXgE84

    Microsoft Other

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    EMC Corporation
    KXgE84more
    Be cautious.. Huawei is facing quite a few legal challenges here in the US... (ie banned at one time from doing business stateside,etc..)
    Oct 14, 2017 1
    • Microsoft warlock
      That’s cuz Cisco lobbied to ban them for national security reasons. There’s only 2 markets without much Huawei presence. US and Israel
      Oct 16, 2017
  • Microsoft rqNt00
    Huawei ? You gotta ask yourself if you didn’t put in any effort
    Oct 14, 2017 0
  • Microsoft Oeorotk
    OP, did you go? How is it? TC?
    Jul 7, 2018 1
    • Microsoft okarin
      No. I am glad I didn't. I got much better offers from Ap and FB this year. (I'm OP)
      Jul 10, 2018
  • Microsoft Sawtooth
    Have an honest conversation with your manager. Maybe she/he will see your worth and give you more pay and or better work. If not, move on.
    Oct 16, 2017 0
  • Teradata 1212Hawks
    Go
    Little chance you will make that much as a 64 at MICROSOFT

    And getting to 64 will get tougher here shortly

    Plus after your signing bonus is up AWS will come calling or you can go back to MSFT
    Oct 14, 2017 0
  • Snapchat / Eng
    ex-softie

    Snapchat Eng

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    Microsoft
    ex-softiemore
    35% pay bump isn’t enough for a microsoft to Huawei switch. You can’t give up the country club life for peanuts 😂
    Oct 14, 2017 0
  • Snapchat / Eng
    ex-softie

    Snapchat Eng

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    Microsoft
    ex-softiemore
    Don’t move to A lol 😂
    Oct 14, 2017 0
  • Microsoft aANw38
    Go!
    Oct 14, 2017 0
  • Oracle onlogn
    if you are a chinese, dont go. but since you are not, it should be good. its a shame that this chinese company is 'racist' against chinese engineers....
    Oct 14, 2017 2
    • Microsoft / Other drbrown
      OP
      Really? I have only heard the opposite
      Oct 14, 2017
    • Microsoft
      $$$$$

      Microsoft

      PRE
      Amazon
      BIO
      Manager of small dev team in Azure
      $$$$$more
      The Oracle guy is smoking something strong. OP, you will be fucked by micro-penises. Don't even think about Huawei if you are not Chinese
      Oct 15, 2017
  • Microsoft Bybq28
    Go!
    Oct 14, 2017 0
  • Microsoft sockshoe
    Huawei is a company built on IP theft (from Nortel, Cisco, Qualcomm, Ericsson, Nokia, Siemens). They'll have you involved in reverse engineering and IP stealing. Employees from H are blacklisted from many parts of US domiciled companies
    Oct 16, 2017 3
    • Microsoft Predisent
      Is that true? Hard to believe.
      Oct 16, 2017
    • Microsoft sockshoe
      Search the internet and find out for yourself!
      Oct 16, 2017
    • Microsoft viper
      Definitely is a problem for anything with a security clearance. H is not a good name on a resume.
      Oct 17, 2017
  • Microsoft Friederich
    Absolutely do not go. You will regret it. You want to jump, jump to either another big respected company, or to a small company with a good respected product or that is just starting. These will give you a great story for your next interview.
    The only thing you can state about a move to Huawei is that "I did it for the money." Not very compelling...
    Oct 15, 2017 1
    • Indeed / Eng Nutella$
      No you can always spin a story about you loved what that team was doing etc. G/F dont care much about prestige of your previous companies. Anyway you already have MS in your Resume and you would easily get an interview after which it's all about interview performance. I'd say jump and try for an year or 2 and jump again using your new comp/ title to get even better comp. No brainer to me.
      Oct 15, 2017