Moving to Canada sde2

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I am working in Seattle right now and not happy with the visa situation in USA. I am thinking of moving to Vancouver.
. I don't see a lot of teams there but i am still considering.
1. Anyone know how much is the salary range for SDE2 in Vancouver?
2. How is standard of living as compared to Seattle on Amazon paycheck?
3 How is MSFT or googles presense in Vancouver?

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  • Microsoft MbaT02
    I recently moved from Redmond to Vancouver (Microsoft) and the pay dropped by 10-15% just number wise. So let’s say you’re making 140k USD base, you can expect around 120k CAD base. It doesn’t really make sense to convert the numbers into USD and compare because things here are priced in CAD and not USD. If you’re paying 2200$ for an apartment in downtown Seattle, you can find good apartments in downtown Vancouver for 2000 CAD. So the quality of life doesn’t really go down because of the move.
    Apr 11 8
    • Microsoft MbaT02
      Apr 11
    • Amazon wintrscmn
      What's the difference between avg and marginal tax rates?
      Apr 11
    • Microsoft MbaT02
      Average tax rate is the tax you pay / total income. Marginal tax rate is the highest tax bracket your income falls under. So anything more that you make will be taxed at the marginal tax rate.
      Apr 12
    • Amazon wintrscmn
      Got it. Thanks for explaining.
      How RSU vesting (not selling) affects these tax rate calculations?
      Apr 12
    • Microsoft MbaT02
      I think RSU vesting is also considered income. So it would be taxed at the marginal tax rate. This is a guess. I just moved here so I am not really sure yet :)
      Apr 12
  • Cavium JqFrjV1n
    What is your Visa problem in USA?
    Apr 10 6
    • Cavium JqFrjV1n
      Ok, Have you taught about Australia?
      Apr 10
    • Amazon / IT
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      Havent heard good things yet, they also have problems with immigrants? Purely my assumption. I am considering europe as well but not england(personal reasons)
      Apr 10
    • Cavium JqFrjV1n
      Are you Indian?
      Apr 10
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      Yes
      Apr 10
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      IELTS dates are booked for next 2-3 months at every center. Hurry up buddy!
      Apr 10
  • If you disconsider the money, is a great move on almost all aspects. If you are young and need to save for retirement like me, Vancouver is tough.

    Career opportunities are way more constrained. Just spend 30 minutes browsing Amazon Phone Tool. Promotions take way longer, rare opportunities past level 6, etc. I know plenty os SDE IIs that would have been SDE IIIs in Seattle already but there are no SDE IIIs in sight to write and provide feedback. In the end, it translates into less money.

    Pay is way less. I have seen SDE II with less than 130K CAD of base and 9 RSUs for the whole year. Use an online calculator to check the income tax, is ugly.

    Cost of living is high. It is half true that you shouldn't think about converting your salary from CAD to USD. Most imported foods are priced the same as USA times current conversion here. Just check TV'S at Amazon, cars and Ikea prices. There are really rare occurrences of things that cost 1 USD on the USA costing 1 CAD in Canada. I can't think of any really.

    Car insurance is between 2.5k and 5k per year, state owned, nowhere to run.

    Oh, and check the house prices... If you are earning between 80K and 150K CAD post tax per year, good luck with the $1.5M houses.
    Apr 16 2
    • NASDAQ / Eng Oswego
      Insurance in BC is affordable once you have recognized history with the insurer. And no at fault claims.
      Apr 16
    • New roku789
      I am in Vancouver currently and want to check out the area. Can you give me a break up of your living situation and how much you pay in taxes, living, rent and how much do you save per year. I like the city but I do think it is important to be able to save to buy a home and have a retirement nest. This is something US can offer. Or in Canada the govt takes complete care of you when you are old.
      Apr 18
  • General Motors InTheEnd2
    There is some Indian software engineer blogger who writes a lot about moving from US to Canada. Google him.
    Apr 10 2
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    • Amazon wintrscmn
      Does Europe has more salary and less home prices?
      Apr 10
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      Crazy i thoguht health care free is a good perk
      Apr 10
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    Anyone has data on what the salary is like 1/4 seems too extreme to me
    Apr 10 1
  • NASDAQ / Eng Oswego
    50% of Amazon Seattle seems to be what you’d end up with. Life in Canada should be good, you won’t have as much money but life is good. I know several Citizens (one am amazon SPM) that have moved to Vancouver, so it can’t be that bad. Obviously their decision wasn’t based on visa issues or on career/TC comp progression.
    Apr 10 1
    • Amazon wintrscmn
      sounds motivating. Thanks!
      Apr 10
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    Why does that matter? Lol
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