Moving to Europe

American Express / Eng
El-Gato

American Express Eng

PRE
Capital One, Visa
El-Gatomore
Dec 24, 2018 33 Comments

I'm considering moving to Europe from USA. Don't care about TC much as long as it is slightly above the CoL expenses. I'm considering Spain/Portugal/Germany. Any one has experience moving to one of these countries when you are not citizen of those countries or USA. If yes how did you go about getting the job?

TC: 265k, not with amex

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TOP 33 Comments
  • You will care once you receive your first offer of circa 40k €.

    And the CoL is on par or higher than the US so good luck with that...
    Dec 24, 2018 7
    • Microsoft FFSake
      Bullshit. Even in Eastern Europe I had more
      Dec 24, 2018
    • Yeah true, you would make 80k € these days, gl.
      Dec 24, 2018
    • New ktFx33
      Not true at all. You would make max 30-40k euros. Unless you work in Switzerland for fintech
      Dec 24, 2018
    • Spotify / Eng EjNG46
      And then you will also be taxed. And oh my you will be taxed...
      Dec 24, 2018
    • A lot take 50-60%. So your 80k € after tax is roughly only enough to cover rent and aldi.
      Dec 25, 2018
  • Uber Okjc62
    Uber in Amsterdam would relocate you and sponsor a visa, it doesn't matter what citizenship you have, the visa is pretty much guaranteed.
    As a Senior engineer, you get a base salary of around 100k EUR, plus equity etc., and a nice tax bonus as well. Look at Numbeo for CoL, it's pretty accurate in my experience.
    We have money/payment teams here, so your experience could fit pretty well too.
    Dec 24, 2018 7
    • New ktFx33
      An n of 1 does not generalize
      Dec 24, 2018
    • GrubHub / Eng
      lumpydog

      GrubHub Eng

      PRE
      Qualcomm
      lumpydogmore
      Amsterdam salaries range from 60-80k. I have 6 data points : booking uber Google to name a few
      Dec 24, 2018
    • Zalando n00bistan
      @uber what’s your yoe? and role?
      Dec 24, 2018
    • Uber moyrwadv
      sr swe TC at Uber AMS

      90k EUR base
      20k EUR bonus target
      70k EUR RSU per year (at FMV)

      and my offer does not even include a US initial grant; with that the rsu’s would double.

      don’t care what booking or zalando sweatshops are offering.
      Dec 25, 2018
    • GrubHub / Eng
      lumpydog

      GrubHub Eng

      PRE
      Qualcomm
      lumpydogmore
      The numbers I was quoting are base and non senior
      Dec 25, 2018
  • Amazon grimy
    Just got an offer from zalando for 65k and another one for 80k.Anywhere between 70-80k euros for the big German companies and around 100k for amazon/uber/etc
    Dec 24, 2018 4
    • Sweet brother. Half as much as you would get in the US but with 50% tax and same cost of living.
      Dec 24, 2018
    • Amazon grimy
      Yet I don’t see Europeans queuing up at the immigration counters here.I wonder why
      Dec 24, 2018
    • New 0racle
      Europe works for Europeans who have zero ambition & are not driven. Just travel, eat sleep & expect Government to take care of them. If you were born there you have very little incentive to leave. But Eastern Europe is a mess though
      Dec 24, 2018
    • See above comment. Plus family. Realise people want to live near family and friends far more than in the USA where you are almost forced to move for college and employment. And they might have big fat inheritances too because most of the countries are very old and there are established families owning lots of property.
      Dec 25, 2018
  • American Express / Eng
    El-Gato

    American Express Eng

    PRE
    Capital One, Visa
    El-Gatomore
    OP
    What's the typical salary for someone with 8-10 years of back end experience with about 2 years at a fang? Saving 5-10k€ a year is enough for me and I've always lived frugal (not married).
    Dec 24, 2018 3
    • Microsoft doueven
      Why not Google Zurich?
      Dec 24, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Tier 1
      Europe isn’t one place. It’s roughly the size of the US, and varies more so than the US does.
      Dec 24, 2018
    • American Express / Eng
      El-Gato

      American Express Eng

      PRE
      Capital One, Visa
      El-Gatomore
      OP
      I find Spain, Portugal and Germany's culture more interesting than other countries. Moreover I don't like cold weather so the choices.
      Dec 24, 2018
  • Facebook
    RedBlack

    Facebook

    BIO
    that would be telling
    RedBlackmore
    Can’t speak for Germany but Spain and Portugal are awesome places to live (and I mean live, not just work). Cost of living is dirt cheap and the culture is radically more inspiring + authentic than Bay/NYC/SEA/ATX, and it’s a world(s) that doesn’t revolve around tech.
    Dec 25, 2018 1
    • American Express / Eng
      El-Gato

      American Express Eng

      PRE
      Capital One, Visa
      El-Gatomore
      OP
      This is why I'm considering Spain and Portugal
      Dec 25, 2018
  • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay
    Bye!
    Dec 24, 2018 0
  • Facebook liam
    Zurich, higher salary, lower taxes
    Dec 24, 2018 1
    • Higher cost of living too. And significantly so.
      Dec 25, 2018
  • GrubHub / Eng
    lumpydog

    GrubHub Eng

    PRE
    Qualcomm
    lumpydogmore
    Netherlands has great tax incentives
    Dec 24, 2018 0
  • New ktFx33
    Col and night life is much better in European cities
    Dec 24, 2018 0

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