My Indian coworkers discriminate against... each other?

Amazon fghjklz
Sep 16 75 Comments

White euro dude. I am the only non-Indian on my team. I have heard the horror stories about empire building and such and was prepared for the worst. This is not the case at all on my team and it’s good work.

However, I have noticed that my Indian coworkers are fiercely racist (?) against their fellow Indians. There are three distinct groups that have formed, and they don’t talk to each other unless they have to. I admittely can’t figure out how they have organized into these groups. One all have darker skin and seem to speak a slightly different language but that’s all I can tell, it could be random and can’t differentiate the other two. Won’t eat with each other. Talk down about others not in their group. They leave me alone in this completely and all treat me professionally. The manager accepts this. What the f?

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  • Veritas randomhand
    India is not a coherent country. It’s multiple religions and cultures under one label made by the British conquerors
    Sep 16 25
    • Google Fjbm23
      It is not caste (mostly) because dailts and other other oppressed caste people don't tend to make it over here for tech jobs. The numbers are low enough that you are unlikely to see it.
      Sep 16
    • Axtria foiba
      They have better opportunities in India due to the reservation. So why not?
      Sep 16
    • Uber has7ydh
      Here's the thing: it's far easier to discriminate based on your region than it is to on caste. We're lazy and we want the lowest effort discrimination. So region it is.

      Plus, the shared language makes it a lot easier to bond. Also, names aren't a universal mapping to caste. My name is Brahmin but there are Punjabi SCs with the same name. And hell, I don't even know what caste a Tamil dude is based on his name, but language is easy.
      Sep 16
    • Amazon OdpS15
      But when Europeans hate each other, then they drag the entire world into it. I mean didn’t they just give the Europeans Union the Nobel peace prize for not going to war despite the circumstances a few years ago. Indian hatred doesn’t win those awards because it’s not that serious. It’s more tribalism and won’t start a War.
      Sep 16
    • JCPenney faangme
      "made by british conquerors" :P. at least you could have read some wiki page before spewing some half baked opinion. India existed as bharat well before british
      Sep 21
  • Amazon onmgccg
    you are the colonizer so they all had to respect you.
    Sep 16 3
    • Amazon fghjklz
      OP
      I am not British just a quiet Ukrainian guy. But they seem to not know what to do with me and just ignore me
      Sep 16
    • Amazon onmgccg
      they love soviets since you’re their arms supplier
      Sep 16
    • Google / Eng hooli.xyz
      lol
      Sep 16
  • Rackspace gITI21
    I apologise for *some* of the people of my country. Sorry you are having to go through this.

    If I may ask, please don’t let this be your only opinion about Indian people. Most of us wish well for everyone and want to see people grow in their lives.
    Sep 16 4
    • Amazon fghjklz
      OP
      This is a good attitude. I didn’t think badly of all Indians, I just saw this as very strange and don’t understand. I have never seen discrimination this obvious
      Sep 16
    • Google / Eng hooli.xyz
      OP is just looking for answers. Must be a culture shock for him to observe Indians acting that way because he probably has never seen anything like it back in his home country of Ukraine.
      Sep 16
    • Roku cruella
      I question u how are coming up with *some* vs *most of us*.

      In my experience that's not the case. Only some of us are non-racist people while sadly and unfortunately most are fiercely racist.

      Though I also question those who are calling this castism. I haven't seen much of that either in USA or even back in India amongst educated people.
      Sep 16
    • Rackspace gITI21
      “I question u how are coming up with *some* vs *most of us*.

      In my experience”
      Sep 16
  • Boeing WSJ🤭
    sounds like a fun social science experiment. you should infiltrate each gang... gain trust, and try to learn why they hate the other groups.
    Sep 16 1
    • Valero Energy Corporation UrdntGrunt
      Top 5 reasons you would have never guessed:
      1. Language
      2. State
      3. Language
      4. Language
      5. State
      Sep 16
  • Cisco NnMk28
    Sounds like gangs in HS.
    Sep 16 1
    • Amazon fghjklz
      OP
      They are nerdy softwares engineers for the most part just like me
      Sep 16
  • Amazon johnwick5
    Indian here ,Lol, i had the same inverse experience when I was with my sister team in Luxembourg, every one was nice to me but there was some wierd group dynamic I could not figure out on my own, a teammate later told me that most of my co-workers were from different euro countries and even though it is one euro most hate the others guts, probably not as overt as what you are describing, but tldr; India is the same even though we are one country , in reality it is many smaller nations under the hood...
    Sep 16 5
    • Google / Eng hooli.xyz
      OP never said it never happens in Europe. Of course there are conflicts in Europe between different white ethnicities.

      But European conflicts mostly come from history of wars and whose ancestors slaughtered your ancestors and whose god is the true one. That’s it.

      Indian conflicts get more complex and have more variables. You can have Hindi vs Muslim, North vs South, dark skin vs fair skin, caste vs caste (mass killing of Dalits by Gurjars), village vs village, politics (Bogakhali village burned to the ground by opposing parties), state vs state, IIT vs BITS, and on and on.
      Sep 16
    • Amazon jQpf16
      agree with this. Indian here and its a shit show in Luxembourg.
      Sep 16
    • Amazon johnwick5
      @hooli.xyz I like your zeal :) , but not the whole world is a simple black and white and India the only shitshow, the size of India brings out these variables you observe and seem to think are unique to India , but similar things happen all over the world , not saying it is a good thing, here are some places with similar problems :
      * Problems with different languages in the same country: Belgium
      * Different ethnicities: everywhere I guess, but many of the African conflicts
      * And wait for it casteism : look up Burakumin in Japan
      Sep 16
    • Google / Eng hooli.xyz
      Again, and I feel like I am repeating myself, I NEVER said that India is the only shitshow. I already said Europe has its own conflicts. Did you actually read my post?

      “* Problems with different languages in the same country: Belgium”

      Ok, but Belgium never had incidents like the mass killing of Dalits by Gurjars. Or the lower-caste killings in Sivagangai because of a temple incident. Or the violence in Bhima Koregaon by Mahars. Or the clash between Jats and Rajputs in Jodhpur. Or the Haryana killings. I can go on and on.

      “* Different ethnicities: everywhere I guess, but many of the African conflicts”

      It’s great that you brought this up since African conflicts actually mirror a lot of conflicts I mentioned above in India.

      “* And wait for it casteism : look up Burakumin in Japan”

      Excellent point. I actually never knew about the Burakumin. But from my brief research, I didn’t find anything close to the scale of violence that India’s caste system has generated.

      Not taking the plight of the Burakumin lightly, of course. But it looks like most have already assimilated in modern Japan. Last incident I can find was the Sayana incident and that was back in the 1960s. Compare that with the caste-based incidents in India. Most of the ones I posted above happened only last year.
      Sep 16
    • Amazon johnwick5
      I understand , all I am saying is India has problems so do other people, we are not inherently worse or better than anybody, a lot of these problems that have us disowning India have solutions, we should take inspiration :)
      Sep 16
  • Amazon broke&dumb
    Hahaha if there was an alien civilization somewhere, i guess this is exactly what they'd think if they observe the Earth.
    Human nature sucks. It's a miracle that our species has come this far at all.
    Sep 16 2
    • Rackspace gITI21
      👏🏻
      Sep 16
    • Amazon Vulgar
      Arguably our tribal nature and cooperation abilities (particularly ability to organize around shared hatred) is EXACTLY what let us succeed.

      It just fails at planetary scale.
      Sep 16
  • Facebook smokedat
    Fuck Indians that do this
    Sep 16 0
  • Facebook Fucerbergg
    Indians are most racist towards other Indians. From now onwards with every single Indian I’m always throwing them under the bus to get promoted myself. I am now M2 with 11 yoe because of this
    Sep 16 0
  • I used to work in an eng org that became majority Indian. There was one man who was darker than the rest and had an English first and last name. None of the other Indian employees would eat lunch with him and if he approached to discuss project work, they would physically distance themselves. It was the craziest thing I had seen. He was a good engineer and was treated very badly by my coworkers (who had always been nice to me.) found it very odd
    Sep 16 5
    • Proofpoint
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      India is one of most discriminating country in world , may be top 3, that’s why I do not want to go back to shit country
      Sep 16
    • I'll assume you are from India @cco, otherwise it's not nice to call it a shit country
      Sep 16
    • Uber has7ydh
      Wow, that's dick behavior for sure.
      Sep 16
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      cco

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      Yes I m from India ( country of discrimination)
      Sep 17
    • Ok @cco you get a pass on your mean comments because you're from there, but it still doesn't sound nice. You seem very angry at India. What needs to change there? What good things does India have that the rest of the world could learn from?
      Sep 17
  • Google engg1
    OP is himself an Indian troll. Surprised no one pointed it out yet. Hint - only an Indian can imagine that a Ukrainian person will introduce himself as "white euro dude".
    Sep 16 2
    • Wix.com TcEs77
      Well, what would be the correct way to introduce himself then? I'm from Eastern Europe suka, blyat?)))
      Sep 16
    • Like how you worked in *itch *hore there
      Sep 16
  • Boeing WSJ🤭
    whoa whoa whoa.... former soviet union includes KOREA?🤯
    Sep 16 6
    • Google / Eng hooli.xyz
      Your link is a bit misleading. Korea was never part of the Soviet Union. Those were ethnic Koreans being deported FROM Soviet lands.

      No Korean territory was actually annexed by the Soviet Union. The last territorial movement was back in the Qing dynasty.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea%E2%80%93Russia_border
      Sep 16
    • Boeing WSJ🤭
      gawd. hooli. thank you. i thought i was taking crazy pills for a hot sec.
      Sep 16
    • Google / Eng hooli.xyz
      Yeah, @proletaria was being a bit shady with how he worded his post. Read it again and you’ll notice he never really answers your question “former soviet union includes KOREA?”

      He instead talks about Koreans living WITHIN Soviet lands, and how Soviet territory moves into areas with Korean populations.

      POPULATIONS. But never talks about Soviet territory moving into actual Korean lands.
      Sep 16
    • Boeing WSJ🤭
      yes. you are right. a closer reading reveals we're talkin bout populations. love you, blind community. 🧠🥰🧠🥰
      Sep 16
    • Google / Eng
      proletaria

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      proletariamore
      The post talks about racism between groups within a single country... Mentioning Koreans in the Soviet Union is no different from mentioning Hondurans in the US, Nigerians in South Africa, Venezuelans In Brazil, etc.

      Outsiders won't be able to tell a Korean apart from a Kazakh, any more than they'll be able to discern a Tamil from a Telegu or a Russian from a Ukrainian.

      The differences are usually minor; it's the stories people have about each other that matter.

      Just gotta know your history.
      Sep 16
  • Wix.com TcEs77
    Question to Indian folks. Are Indian religious castes still a thing outside of India? Do you discriminate against Indians from different castes? Heard some myths that if Indian wears many golden accessories they are from the top tier caste and if you has lower tier you should behave appropriately. Is that true?)))
    Sep 16 1
    • Microsoft micrusade
      No one believe in castes, today. Only Communists spread casteism today and hate against upper caste people(because educated people vote for Right-wing parties).
      I am myself from lower caste, so you can believe me. I have only seen lower caste people flaunting about their castes and how they are "unique and great". This was reverse in older days.
      Sep 16
  • Expedia Group imabird
    awful.
    Sep 16 0
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    50shydsCly

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    You sure they all indians? Maybe some are from pakistan
    Sep 16 0
  • Google / Eng
    proletaria

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    proletariamore
    If you're into sappy romcoms, I recommend watching "2 States"; you'll learn all about how racist modern Indians are.

    As a quick overview:
    There are different languages (e.g., dem Gujaratis, Tamils, and Bengalis), geographic origins (north and south), religious backgrounds (Sikh, Muslim, Buddhist and Hindu), castes (e.g., dem Brahmins and Dalits), and on and on and on.

    I think it's fairly similar to the Soviet Union, vis a vis Tatars/Chechens/Georgians/Ukrainians/Tajiks/Koreans.
    Sep 16 0
  • Roku duck duck
    So you’re saying they’re all the same to you? Who is the racist here?
    Sep 16 0
  • Microsoft micrusade
    India is one nation but like the way European Union is, in terms of different cultures, languages, different political ideologies. All diversity under one umbrella.
    Sep 16 0
  • Cadence / Eng
    pretzle

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    Birds of a feather flock together
    Sep 16 0