SeattleJun 22, 2018
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My manager is an ass - how do I deal with this?

I have a so called manager who is on same level as me. Apart from cracking lame jokes, I have never found him useful in anyway. I am taking over a big project from him and finding basic thinking missing in it. I like my work and don’t want him to take advantage of my hard work and use it as his achievements. I am concerned about my growth in the team, as he is also fighting for next level. Dont want to change teams till this year end. Should I talk to Skip level or HRBP? Any of you were in same situation? How did you over come?

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Pure Storage mIWu13 Jun 22, 2018

Skip level, if nothing happens, skip skip level

Uber 987 Jun 27, 2018

If skip level doesn't help, OP should skip skip level and go to skip skip level. If skip skip level doesn't help, OP should skip skip skip level and go to skip skip skip level.

Spotify noobtella Jun 29, 2018

987. 🎯

Amazon Gitflub Jun 22, 2018

Oh, you report to me?

Microsoft deejvoo Jun 22, 2018

Yeah! Show them who da boss

Motorola Solaire Jun 26, 2018

Fuck ‘em up

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Uber Bonzai Jun 22, 2018

Communication via tickets is an excellent way to do this

eBay buyitnow Jun 22, 2018

I don’t think you’ll get too far by telling your manager’s manager that your boss is weak. You’ll need specific data, and even then, you have to be very professional about it. Document the problems up front, come up with a plan to fix it, and communicate that in your skip level meetings. Let the facts speak for themselves and take credit for fixing the issues.

Synopsys KMnt20 Jun 24, 2018

Completely agree. Nothing will happen if they are hand in glove. I have also been thru this... Exiting soon...

HPE జ్ఞా Jun 24, 2018

Yeah, go with concrete evidence.

Cisco pgong Jun 22, 2018

I've been through this. Leaving the team soon. Let him handle the complex project then

Capital One tLaT18 Jun 22, 2018

If he’s an ass, tell him that he is full of shit😉

Amazon fnuLnu Jun 22, 2018

1. Reflect that he is ass in his feedback with clear impact on customer or $$. Don't derive, don't conclude, don't use adjectives. 2. Instead of giving visibility to his demeanor, give visibility to your efforts and success. Drive Principle reviews, drive project management. You should be the single point of contact for your project. Keep him in Cc 3. Do not be percieved as going behind his back. Or crossing him. No one will want you then. 4. His promotion does not depend upon him taking credit for project. His promotion depends upon him enabling you or anyone else if you are incompetent to deliver this project successfully. 4.Your promotion depends upon you delivering this project. 5. Him giving you a broken project that you can fix, drive, and deliver successfully is a win win. (Project being broken could be intentional to set you up for great body of work and demonstrating that you got the chops). 6. If anyone from his team delivers the project he is getting promoted to be able to enable the team. 7. The question is do you understand the mechanics of promotions and are you willing to partner with him on a win win strategy.

Groupon TC || 👉🏿 Jun 22, 2018

Quite a few good suggestions. I doubt no. 5 though. We are dealing with a real project and not an interview problem. Everyone's gotta be committed to the success of the project. Tests have their place only in interview scenarios.

Amazon fnuLnu Jun 22, 2018

This is one among many of the strategies a manger could use to collect everyones support along the way. What better than, oh no one could come up with the right solution, we had so much back and forth, but this IC tackled the problem head on, brought everyone to the same page, and got their commitment. Think about that line as a manager

Groupon TC || 👉🏿 Jun 22, 2018

First focus on success of the project. Do not lose sight of that goal. All the other tips being mentioned in the responses come second to this primary goal. Disregard all suggestions that might sabotage the success of the project. Use the other ones to protect your rightful prize.

Microsoft Sbwv22 Jun 24, 2018

Be like dildo, my friend

LinkedIn Abc134 Jun 26, 2018

Stick it in his ass

Amazon yWJx78 Jun 24, 2018

Remember Ass is always the boss