My pay has gone down, accounting for inflation.

Intel gtfo.intel
Dec 13, 2018 50 Comments

SWE

Year 1, 1 year prior YOE 71k
Year 2, 1% raise, 71.7k
Year 3, 1.2% raise, 72.5k
Year 4, .7% raise, 73k

I bust my ass at work. Long hours. Always ensure our customers are happy. Always taking on more responsibility and succeeding. No promo. No decent raises. Always told “there’s no room in the budget”. We’ve had record breaking company performance every year.

Since 2014 cumulative inflation means 71000 is the same spending power as 75589 this year.

I’ve lost spending power due to these poor raises. How do I cope! I feel worthless working here.

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  • Amazon / Eng Galаdriel
    Are you packing CPUs into the boxes?
    Dec 13, 2018 4
    • Intel gtfo.intel
      OP
      I’m a swe.
      Dec 13, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Galаdriel
      The question still stands.
      Dec 13, 2018
    • Sony / IT
      BGmK54

      Sony IT

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      BGmK54more
      Is this packing job in US or in Europe?
      Dec 13, 2018
    • Intel / Eng xdCS17
      What grade? Looks like grade 3, entry level engineer.
      Dec 14, 2018
  • PayPal Jingyang
    You already know the answer. Find a new job that will pay and treat you better.
    I left my last job because I didn’t get RSU refreshers.
    Why still loyal to intel bud?
    Dec 13, 2018 1
    • Intel gtfo.intel
      OP
      Not much in my area. Trying to get reloed
      Dec 14, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng IAmJob
    My progression:
    Worked at a big tech company (prefer to not name)
    Yr 1: 68k
    Yr 2: 72k
    Got a job at Amazon
    Yr 3: 110k
    Yr 4: 140k
    Yr5: 230k
    Yr6: 280k
    Yr7:310k
    Yr8: 340k
    Yr9: 380k

    Stop wasting your time, move companies.
    Dec 13, 2018 3
    • Live Nation / Eng
      syWY73

      Live Nation Eng

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      syWY73more
      What is the breakout if you do that mind.... Didn't know Amazon was that generous.... Congratulations !
      Dec 14, 2018
    • Amazon BFIh02
      Uh... what? How much of that is pure luck driven by the stock price?

      Calling bullshit on 140k to 380k in 4 years without changing companies.
      Dec 14, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng IAmJob
      2 promos plus appreciation. But my bad I forgot to add two more years. Updated.
      Dec 14, 2018
  • Google ralfi
    Get out of Intel.
    Dec 13, 2018 4
    • Intel gtfo.intel
      OP
      I’m trying.
      It’s hard to leetcode with 60 hour weeks.
      Dec 14, 2018
    • Google merin
      Dude, duck that company. Stop working so hard. Start phoning it in. Study and get out. Why do you care about your rating at that shithole?
      Dec 14, 2018
    • Intel gtfo.intel
      OP
      I think it would get a lot tougher for my coworkers. I can’t do that to them. It’s not rating, it’s just taking pride in my work.
      Dec 14, 2018
    • Google merin
      We are all adults here. Your coworkers can decide for themselves. You're not really helping them as much as you are the company.
      Dec 14, 2018
  • Lockheed Martin / Eng iEkO37
    I thought I'd never say this but that's worse than Lockheed.
    Dec 13, 2018 0
  • Facebook public2
    Is this monthly?
    Dec 13, 2018 3
    • Intel Intelegacy
      If it had been monthly he wouldn’t have whined about it. One thing I don’t understand is he is top contributor why the heck he didn’t realize sooner is what I am wondering about
      Dec 13, 2018
    • Facebook public2
      Sure anyone would be frustrated with stagnant growth.
      Dec 13, 2018
    • Intel gtfo.intel
      OP
      Super frustrated. Losing spending power.
      Dec 14, 2018
  • New / Eng michalumni
    Can you leetcode? If not, get started, if so then wtf are you doing?
    Dec 13, 2018 1
    • Sony / IT
      BGmK54

      Sony IT

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      BGmK54more
      With such low TC he is not able to buy premium...
      Dec 13, 2018
  • Microsoft / Mgmt @zzz
    Busting long hours at Intel. I feel it's not culture fit, and hence you aren't growing. Work less, prepare for interviews, leave asap.
    Dec 13, 2018 0
  • Cruise Automation mocca
    Those aren't really even raises. We call those cost of living adjustments. Companies justifies it as staying with inflation.

    You might as work for government at those numbers, they have step increases for seniority like this.

    If you're busting your ass for real, you need to leave. I would've left after 2 review cycles tops if this happened. Waiting for 4 years doesn't make any sense. It's obvious they either don't value you or you do barely passable work. This is a hot market for SWEs, if you aren't getting at least 10% raises at that salary range now, you're doing something wrong.
    Dec 13, 2018 2
    • Intel gtfo.intel
      OP
      It’s not even. COL adjustment. It’s below COL
      Dec 14, 2018
    • Cruise Automation mocca
      It's what company calls it, doesn't mean that it's actual COL. The amount is usually 1% if job level hasn't changed. Sometimes 2%.
      Dec 15, 2018
  • Intel Intelegacy
    This is quite normal in Intel. Basically they treat us as full time contractors
    Dec 13, 2018 1
    • Sony / IT
      BGmK54

      Sony IT

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      BGmK54more
      Intel sucks with salaries and these Green Badges policy...
      Dec 13, 2018
  • Microsoft Seahawks12
    Nvidia is probably much better if you would like to work in the chip industry
    Dec 13, 2018 0
  • Oracle
    5hrwkwk

    Oracle

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    Google, Facebook, Instacart, Twitter, Uber, Air Asia, IBM, Cisco
    5hrwkwkmore
    Welcome to the club.
    Dec 13, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng GHskann
    Intel is a horrible place... just leave!
    Dec 13, 2018 0
  • Oracle / Eng hamidooo
    Your TC sucks to be honest. Come to oracle you will get a slightly higher TC but with way better WLB.
    Dec 13, 2018 0
  • Intel jyk
    Thats a very low pay, is that base pay or tc? What grade are you
    Dec 13, 2018 0
  • Intel Intelegacy
    Are you in H1B ?
    Dec 14, 2018 6
    • Intel Intelegacy
      First thing you can try is for an internal transfer within Intel. Get to a better role and team with good WLB. Since you are an US citizen you have freedom to quit and start looking for new job.
      Dec 14, 2018
    • Intel gtfo.intel
      OP
      I’ve been reaching out. It’s tough. Most teams are restricted to the grade they can hire or the skills match isn’t perfect and the manager won’t even have a 1:1
      Dec 14, 2018
    • Intel gtfo.intel
      OP
      Still going to keep reaching out though.
      Dec 14, 2018
    • Intel Intelegacy
      Always +1 grade is doable in Intel
      Dec 14, 2018
    • Intel gtfo.intel
      OP
      You say that, but I’ve noticed with all the reports and downsizing there is a large pool of people managers are Prioritizing to hire people who are redundant etc
      Dec 15, 2018
  • Apple cleopatraa
    Location? Oregon or CA?
    Dec 13, 2018 2
  • Microsoft @S Nutella
    Location? Phoenix?
    Dec 14, 2018 1
    • Intel gtfo.intel
      OP
      No but I would Relo there for better pay
      Dec 14, 2018
  • Fastly ugggh
    not only is that low pay to begin, the increase amounts are ridiculous and insulting.
    Dec 14, 2018 1
    • Intel gtfo.intel
      OP
      I’m ok beginning low. It’s difficult to grow and mentor people coming in at higher levels and pay than me. Very insulting.
      Dec 14, 2018
  • Intel Intelegacy
    In which location you are in ?
    Dec 13, 2018 1