NV DL vs Apple CPU

Nvidia / Eng ToHellWGA
Nov 21, 2018 23 Comments

new grad, 3 intern at NV and graduating from master. NV is looking at ~140k base and slightly higher than 200k TC for the deep learning role (more SW). Apple is paying ~130k base and ~200k TC for the CPU perf role, but pay 1.5x for overtime (non-exempt).

Which one should I go? To me Apple is safer and NV is riskier (given how the stock and market are looking like now). I am a HW fan but seems like it’s not a good time for HW right now. Hmm... Any advice would be great!

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  • Nvidia Amit K
    Apple is better. Learn from my regrets.
    Nov 21, 2018 7
    • Nvidia / Eng ToHellWGA
      OP
      Hmmm that’s something interesting to know... I heard they do focal review every fall. So they don’t refresh stock and give enough yearly bonus according to how you behave? What are the numbers looking at? Thanks!
      Nov 21, 2018
    • Nvidia Amit K
      Yeah every fall. Top performers get like a 7k base increase. That is peanuts compared to what my friends get at Apple. I worked 7 days a week for that too. Really bad recognition at Nvidia.
      Nov 21, 2018
    • Nvidia qwerk
      Nvidia doesn’t give yearly bonuses. Refresh is also very low compared to Apple.
      Nov 21, 2018
    • Nvidia / Eng ToHellWGA
      OP
      Ahhhh bad news to hear : ((((
      Nov 21, 2018
    • Nvidia / Eng ArgentumLi
      Amit k, you do know our HRs monitor blind. Given there are only 12 Amit K in whole NVIDIA it would be pretty easy to track you down. Please do change the username!
      Dec 24, 2018
  • Nvidia smartpm9
    Take NVIDIA, stay for few years, learn DL and all the doors will open in the future, you are just getting started and have all the time in the world. If you have a G or U offer, then go for them.
    Nov 22, 2018 0
  • Nvidia Touglavia
    I would choose nv, the job profile will lead to better future prospects
    Nov 22, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng
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    abshxmore
    Deep learning at NV? Do you have a PhD?

    Also I️ would choose Apple, just cause it might match your interests more
    Nov 21, 2018 2
    • Nvidia / Eng ToHellWGA
      OP
      I am master. I think CPU is safer but I doubt whether it would benefit me more : ( sigh...
      Nov 21, 2018
    • Nvidia Artart
      You don't need a PhD at nVidia to do DL
      Nov 22, 2018
  • Nvidia uyachimata
    I would say nv. Your DL experience would open other doors in future and would keep you relatively up-to-date with DL field. Compensation would definitely align when you are relevant in the market. Also, apple CPU doesn't sound as exciting as DL. But make sure what your team does at Nvidia. Everyone is using dl/ai words these days to mean anything and everything. Disclaimer: I have a bias against apple.
    Nov 22, 2018 1
    • Nvidia / Eng ToHellWGA
      OP
      Have you worked for Apple or heard anything? They are not doing too great now but they still freaking rich
      Nov 22, 2018
  • Uber Uber|
    NV is better than Apple a year ago, but just check out its stock, tanking as if you just drop a piece of shit onto the toilet
    Nov 21, 2018 1
    • Nvidia / Eng ToHellWGA
      OP
      I have not got the stock so it might actually be a good thing for me... Who knows how it’s gonna look like a year later LoL
      Nov 21, 2018
  • Intel / Eng plebHW->SW
    I would only choose Nvidia if you want to keep your options open for software side of things.

    Personally, I would choose the CPU perf role since I know that team interacts with multiple parts of the SoC and thus you will get to learn a lot about how things come together at the system level. It should allow for much more career growth compared to the more niche DL role.

    For $$$, as other posters mentioned, Apple gives sizable refreshers (30~40k @ ICT2 in SEG with average performance) while Nvidia doesn't give much. SEG doesn't really make you do overtime though (i.e., won't ask for it explicitly thus won't pay OT, even if you choose to work OT). At the same time, IF you switch to more software, ML roles pay very well.

    Disclaimer: I do hardware+software, love system-level stuff.
    Nov 24, 2018 0
  • Apple / Eng TC/GTFO240
    Fam ICT2 with 130 base and 70k stock a year is great! That’s what ICT 3 get tbh.
    Nov 21, 2018 2
    • Nvidia / Eng ToHellWGA
      OP
      Nah I count the sign-on for the first year :) its not that high
      Nov 21, 2018
    • Intel / Eng plebHW->SW
      Shouldn't include sign-on in TC
      Nov 24, 2018
  • It’s your first job. Having a DL role on your resume from NVIDIA is like having a supply chain role at Apple 5 years ago. NV’s current growth area in SW is DL/AI and everyone knows it in the Valley. Name recognization is still worth a lot in your first job.
    Nov 30, 2018 0
  • Symantec / Mgmt AntiVirus
    Choose the job you like more, given the compensation is almost the same, after tax.
    Nov 21, 2018 0