NY Budget Director finally speaks the truth and spills the beans

Google / Eng Mr Glass
Mar 1 23 Comments

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/open-letter-new-york-state-budget-director-robert-mujica-regarding-amazon

"Furthermore, opposing Amazon was not even good politics, as the politicians have learned since Amazon pulled out. They are like the dog that caught the car. They are now desperately and incredibly trying to explain their actions. They cannot."

Sums it up pretty well. Who's going to throw mud on AOC's face?

"Incredibly, I have heard city and state elected officials who were opponents of the project claim that Amazon was getting $3 billion in government subsidies that could have been better spent on housing or transportation. This is either a blatant untruth or fundamental ignorance of basic math by a group of elected officials. The city and state 'gave' Amazon nothing. Amazon was to build their headquarters with union jobs and pay the city and state $27 billion in revenues. The city, through existing as-of-right tax credits, and the state through Excelsior Tax credits - a program approved by the same legislators railing against it - would provide up to $3 billion in tax relief, IF Amazon created the 25,000-40,000 jobs and thus generated $27 billion in revenue. You don't need to be the State's Budget Director to know that a nine to one return on your investment is a winner.

"Make no mistake, at the end of the day we lost $27 billion, 25,000-40,000 jobs and a blow to our reputation of being 'open for business.' The union that opposed the project gained nothing and cost other union members 11,000 good, high-paying jobs. The local politicians that catered to the hyper-political opposition hurt their own government colleagues and the economic interest of every constituent in their district. The true local residents who actually supported the project and its benefits for their community are badly hurt. Nothing was gained and much was lost. This should never happen again."

"The seventy percent of New Yorkers who supported Amazon and now vent their anger also bear responsibility and must learn that the silent majority should not be silent because they can lose to the vocalminority and self-interested politicians."
vocalminority == SJW scums and leftists

Again, who's going to throw mud on AOC's face?

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  • Jet.com / Other
    gtfoorgtfo

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    gtfoorgtfomore
    Theres so many beautiful towns in Midwest, with wonderful kind people. Let them profit bigly. No need to have office in cold snowy New York.
    Mar 1 6
    • Google / Eng Mr Glass
      OP
      Watch: the Governor is going to bend over backwards to get Bezos to reconsider NY 😉
      Mar 1
    • Jet.com / Other
      gtfoorgtfo

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      gtfoorgtfomore
      I’d love to see him squeal, seriously
      Mar 1
    • Bloomberg / Eng
      WPslayer

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      WPslayermore
      “many beautiful towns in Midwest”

      “cold snowy New York.”

      Yeah why would anyone live in in the Atlantic coastal Metropolitan areas, when they could live in balmy Bismarck ND, wallow in the tropical breezes of Lake Superior in Marquette Michigan or enjoy crisp January on the plains of Mankato Minnesota.
      Mar 1
    • Google / Eng Mr Glass
      OP
      ^ 👌😂
      Mar 1
    • Compass / Eng
      FUPayMe

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      FUPayMemore
      This will never happen. Companies put offices where talent either exists or where talent wants to live. No one wants to live in those flyover states as evidenced by the lack of tech companies in those areas.
      Mar 1
    • Google / Eng Mr Glass
      OP
      Sometimes companies put offices where Bezos wants to be more often. Like close to Washington Post's HQ
      Mar 1
  • Google / Eng
    learner

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    14 yoe engineer in tech
    learnermore
    Trying to negotiate to get a better deal from amazon, is ok. But blindly opposing amazon coz it will displace ppl is wrong. AOC is like democrats' trump.
    Mar 1 6
    • Compass / Eng
      FUPayMe

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      FUPayMemore
      Comparing anyone to trump is a bit of an exaggeration no?
      Mar 1
    • Google / Eng
      learner

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      learnermore
      Not as horrible as trump, agreed. But she is just to much unwise noise
      Mar 1
    • Citadel lda
      Dumb liberals only virtue signal without looking at results. AOC would have wreck the country with her green deal, whereas Trump is running the country better than Obama was.
      Mar 2
    • Compass / Eng
      FUPayMe

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      FUPayMemore
      Have any evidence to back up that claim Ida?
      Mar 2
    • Google / Eng
      learner

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      learnermore
      10-15 years later, ppl all over the world will be in disbelief, about how america elected a horrible person like trump, and how a large % of them even supported him, knowing all the horrible things he did.
      This will be studied for centuries, how ppl can lose their mind, and follow a lunatic
      Mar 2
    • Compass / Eng
      FUPayMe

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      FUPayMemore
      We will look upon this time the way Germans look back at hitler.

      Looking back at it it’s almost impossible to believe that someone would support hitler and yet millions did. This is similar.
      Mar 2
  • Compass / Eng
    FUPayMe

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    FUPayMemore
    Amazon will be back
    Mar 1 6
    • Amazon has a LOT of options, they don’t need new york
      Mar 1
    • Compass / Eng
      FUPayMe

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      FUPayMemore
      Nah, not really.
      Mar 1
    • Uber / Eng howdyptnr
      They haven’t even left, they’re just expanding in Hudson Yards instead of Queens. An Amazon recruiter contacted me on the day they pulled out saying as much.

      Would have been nice to have tech jobs that don’t require commuting to Manhattan, but I guess that’s not allowed.
      Mar 1
    • Amazon zxyu23
      Amazon is expanding in Bellevue now, bunch of teams just got notice to relocate and local news has it that Amazon has acquired a ton of Bellevue office space. If you think Amazon is going back to New York it ain't happening. Decisions get made fast here and the company is already executing on plan B.
      Mar 1
    • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
      "Would have been nice to have tech jobs that don’t require commuting to Manhattan, but I guess that’s not allowed"

      They would only have been 1-2 subway stops from Manhattan in LIC. Manhattan is ideal anyway, since the trains from Jersey and upstate all go there, resulting in a faster commute from those places than LIC
      Mar 1
    • Uber / Eng howdyptnr
      Myself and most of my colleagues live in Brooklyn or Queens and it’d be a nice novelty to just avoid the crush of people going in and out of Manhattan every day. If I could live in Williamsburg and bike 10m to LIC for a tech job, that’s the dream. I guess I’m just not a fan of super dense areas like Midtown or Union Square where most tech is.
      Mar 1
  • Apple 867530nine
    Or NYC could have followed Austins approach and offered no subsidies and rather offer Amazon a seat at the table for the city to help work on how to best shape the city and infrastructure in exchange for their presence there.

    That would have been the right thing to do. No corporate welfare. No big nanny state excuses. Offer Amazon the chance to be a direct corporate citizen to better shape the city.

    But 😂...this is Amazon we’re talking about. Like they give a shit about any of that.

    I simply don’t care about the excuses and howling. It’s not going to amount to a hill of beans where Amazon goes as long as it’s in the states. The net economic activity is the same for the nation. Let them pick a city based on merit or fuck off rather then cities tipping over themselves to offer sweetheart deals that only Amazon gets and other businesses in the city doesn’t.
    Mar 2 1

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