Need Advice: H1B wait vs Move out

Oracle YAengineer
Jun 2 21 Comments

Context:
Lost H1B lottery 5 times already. Currently working on L1B visa. Have at least two more attempts. Changed team to OCI for better comp - was a let down (5% raise on Exceeds expectation, don’t expect much change in TC after RSU refresher).

TC ~ 160k
What’s the best option for me?


Details about me:
Relationship Status: Single - no problems in moving to a different country.
Fairly confident about interviewing at other companies - have done competitive programming in past.

Concerns:
1) TC in other countries is significantly lower than that in Bay Area - looks like only Zurich (Switzerland) has comparable compensation structure.
2) Not sure about the quality of work outside - am happy with the work and visibility I currently have.

P.S: Serious advise only please.

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  • Prolific Interactive / Eng
    MsIt68

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    Definitely wait if you want a chance at a career in the US. Life is very different in Zurich so it's more about lifestyle than salary to me. Once you get your H1B the green card then citizenship are a breeze. Just a matter of time.

    (I am from Europe, had two H1B myself and got my green card last year. Planning to wait for citizenship at this point)
    Jun 2 3
    • Google L20
      Can you share the lifestyle difference since you have seen both. Also which one do you prefer and why? I’m caught in this dilemma of whether I should try moving to Zurich considering the endless Green card wait (Indian). Any input would be helpful thanks
      Jun 2
    • Prolific Interactive / Eng
      MsIt68

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      Zurich is a lot smaller and quieter. If you are into a quiet lifestyle that revolves around work and having a good work life balance it shouldn't be an issue. Also you can hike around the city, go skiing and travel anywhere in Europe very easily (including driving) which to me is a better more enjoyable access to different languages and cultures. I live in NYC but have been to SF many times and I think if you like the west coast lifestyle you might like Zurich. I would advise to go there on vacation for a week and plan activities and meet locals to get a good feel of it.
      Hope that helps :)
      Jun 2
    • Google L20
      Thanks for taking the time to wright this it was really helpful. I am thinking of taking a vacation and exploring the city before planning any idea of moving there. Thanks for the response :)
      Jun 2
  • The only company worth going to Zurich is Google. If you pass the HC, go for it. Otherwise move to Singapore. The pay is high as well.
    Jun 2 1
    • Airbnb New999hire
      Yup. Airbnb sifnapore is 400k TC
      Jun 2
  • Amazon holdthedo
    Choose a country which is second best in term of opportunities.I would recommend the UK ,Canada or Singapore.
    Jun 2 4
    • Bloomberg
      YUNOSlayer

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      YUNOSlayermore
      The UK might not be the best choice right now 😂
      Jun 2
    • Amazon holdthedo
      Brexit yes but IMO tech opportunities are second best there.
      Jun 2
    • Bloomberg
      YUNOSlayer

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      YUNOSlayermore
      Nothing compares with the US in terms of demand, especially if you include startups. I studied in the UK, I just wouldn’t recommend to move there right now that’s all ...
      Jun 2
    • Google Sirens
      @YUNOSlayer: How is the supply of talent in London? Are they hiring strong tech folks
      Jun 2
  • Google FGtp85
    If your situation is not changing significantly in a year or two and you like US you could wait and then move
    Jun 2 0
  • Bloomberg
    YUNOSlayer

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    YUNOSlayermore
    Post your damn TC or GTFO
    Jun 2 0
  • Twitter chutya
    What “stocks” email?
    Jun 2 2
  • Amazon / IT OIbn58
    How long is L1B? I thought the max is 5(3+2).
    Jun 3 1
    • Oracle YAengineer
      OP
      Yes, max is 5 years. Oracle has been applying for H1B from before that.
      Jun 3
  • Amazon new_ew
    If you're nimble enough, you might as well take the last 2 attempts. Move if it doesn't pan out.
    Jun 2 0
  • Intel Act2016
    Fly to Mexico and walk across the border. Done
    Jun 2 0
  • Cornerstone YGKN36
    I have lived in sweden for 6 months and 4 months in Germany. IMO to settle you have to know their local language which was too much for me.
    Jun 2 0