Need Advice: Microsoft to Amazon

Microsoft GLxg56
Jun 4 34 Comments

Is moving from Microsoft to Amazon right decision?
Microsoft level 62.
Amazon L5.
Location: Hyderabad India.

Microsoft
Fixed INR 31 Lakhs
Performance Bonus = upto 20%
Stocks: INR 3.5L per year (not completed 2 years, so nothing vested till now)

Amazon:
Fixed INR 30.5L
Sign on bonus , first year 19L, second year 14.5
Stocks: 19

YOE: 8


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TOP 34 Comments
  • Hell no. Amzn holds back so much unless ur there for a long time. Takes 3 years to vest 401k and most of stock is after 4 years
    Jun 4 6
    • Amazon cloudjunki
      This is true
      Jun 4
    • Well if you're after money, just leave that 3rd world country and come to the US. Ull make wayy more money
      Jun 4
    • New / Eng
      kratosss

      New Eng

      PRE
      Cisco, Amazon
      kratosssmore
      @asianandy you know about PPP?
      No? Yea, I figured.
      Jun 4
    • Purchasing power parity?
      Jun 4
    • New / Eng
      kratosss

      New Eng

      PRE
      Cisco, Amazon
      kratosssmore
      Yes, thankyou. That warrants that one can still earn a whole lot of money in a 3rd world country and live with a respectable and comparable standard of living.
      Jun 4
  • Uber Thanossss
    Go attend Indeed, ServiceNow and Salesforce. Use this offer to further negotiate. Not much of a rise for a switch to Amazon. Staying at MS for 2 years for 63 doesn't make sense either
    Jun 4 2
    • Microsoft / R&D ^^^
      And uber too.
      Jun 4
    • Microsoft mhfhhdjs
      Agree with above . Uber salaries are pretty good provided the stocks don't tank much
      Jun 4
  • Airbnb casa
    L63 to Amazon L5 is a downlevel. L6 is the senior level at Amazon
    Jun 4 1
    • Microsoft GLxg56
      OP
      My level is 62 currently in Microsoft
      Jun 4
  • Microsoft Zumbas
    Why would you accept a decrease in base pay?
    Jun 4 7
    • Microsoft GLxg56
      OP
      Yes, they asked me the reason for change in less than a year.
      I told them about the work quality issues.
      Jun 5
    • Microsoft Zumbas
      Oh okay. Less than a year makes it different I guess. Maybe they could smell that you want out and knew what offer you would accept.
      Jun 5
    • Microsoft / R&D ^^^
      Do you have a mentor to talk? You don't talk shit about your work, team, company in interview or during negotiation. Have you talked to your skip in MS about work? Not all teams in Amazon do great work, same as MS.
      Jun 5
    • Microsoft GLxg56
      OP
      I don't see any hope in my skip.
      Yes I agree there are good teams in MS as well. But I don't know how to find one.
      Also I am sure should I reject the Amazon offer in the hope that I will find a better team in MS in future and I will be able to get into that team.
      So I have to take a call on only one thing, should I accept the offer and move on or should I wait for some time complete a year and then look for good teams.
      I am currently in CSEO(MSIT) org.
      Jun 5
    • Microsoft Zumbas
      ^^^is right. It's usually never a good idea to talk badly about your previous org.
      The review cycle is here so you can probably stick it out for a few more months, and then look for a team.
      Jun 5
  • Microsoft / R&D ^^^
    19 stocks? Are you kidding us? Or you averaged 19 per year?
    Jun 4 7
    • Microsoft GLxg56
      OP
      In India?
      Jun 4
    • Microsoft / R&D ^^^
      Yes. Though if you plan not to stay for all 4 years, it doesn't matter anyways.
      Jun 4
    • Microsoft GLxg56
      OP
      I negotiated, HR said they can't give anything above it.
      So probably this is final
      Jun 4
    • Microsoft / R&D ^^^
      Try other companies. Put papers in MS and ask for counter offer.
      Jun 4
    • Microsoft mhfhhdjs
      MS generally doesn't do counter offer.
      Jun 4
  • Microsoft mhfhhdjs
    TC & YOE. Without any details there is no way to help .
    Jun 4 2
    • Microsoft GLxg56
      OP
      Updated
      Jun 4
    • Microsoft mhfhhdjs
      Low offer for 8 YOE . I would suggest you to try for Uber, Rubrik, etc to boost up the TC
      Jun 4
  • Uber Thanossss
    Depends on the TC and you prospectice promotion for L63 at Microsoft
    Jun 4 1
    • Microsoft GLxg56
      OP
      Updated, 63 is not happening for 2 years at least
      Jun 4
  • Nvidia bojackhors
    Oh you're going to "love" this change in "culture"
    Jun 4 0