Need help understanding what's expected TC for 7 years experience

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Jun 9, 2018 19 Comments

I'm currently at 160 base and 210 TC at Amazon(7 years of total experience).

I'm a SDE II(L5) and I'm a full stack engineer with 5 years of startup experience and 2 years at Google as application engineer(I'm also working on deep learning from 8 months and also have a deep learning nano degree and nano degree in self driving car, not sure if it's of any value to the company though).
Like most people, I work extremely hard at Amazon, over 14 hours everyday and on several weekend's.

I'm not sure if this is standard for an SDE II or am I being taken advantage of for not negotiating better?

Can someone help me out without being sarcastic or rude.

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  • Google tacojoe
    You’re not being taken advantage of
    Jun 9, 2018 1
    • Amazon Jeff Bеzоs
      He is. For 14 hours of work a day, he’s essentially being paid the rate of somebody who makes $105k TC.
      Jun 9, 2018
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    3headed🐒

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    3headed🐒more
    Full stack engineer still a thing?
    Jun 9, 2018 1
    • Cornerstone Booolah
      Master of none
      Jun 9, 2018
  • Microsoft anonshit
    For Seattle that TC is great.. for Bay Area it is decent.. Microsoft seniors make similar TC here.. as long as you don’t keep comparing with San Francisco’s salaries or Facebook Netflix salaries 😀
    Jun 9, 2018 4
    • Facebook public
      The fact this is competitive with msft should tell you all you need to know ;) Interview around, you might see a 100% increase in comp and significantly shorter work day.
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Funfunfun

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      OP
      Do you mean to say that I should be aiming for ~400k TC?
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Facebook public
      Meaning if you interview well you could get at least that.
      Jun 10, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Funfunfun

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      OP
      Thanks. I'll start preparing
      Jun 10, 2018
  • DocuSign mLUX83
    Stop working 14 hour days that is absurd
    Jun 9, 2018 0
  • Amazon VeWd48
    The TC is fine, if you stop working 14 hours a day. And stop working on weekends. They’re not paying you for that.

    You can start freelancing after hours or on weekends, and earn 500k+ in total.
    Jun 9, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng 💤 bored
    I am SDE2 with 5 YOE, slightly higher TC than you, and I work 8 hour days and no weekends. Working that much is fine if you want to, but don’t neglect the other important things in life.
    Jun 9, 2018 0
  • New / Eng
    albion

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    albionmore
    TC is good for Seattle, and is just above average for Bay Area. As other commenters have pointed out, you are being taken advantage of in work-life balance.

    Jump ship, get better TC, and be happy.
    Jun 9, 2018 0
  • DocuSign mLUX83
    I meant to add you can get that comp with lower work days...I’d be more concerned with wlb
    Jun 9, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng
    mpkfa

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    mpkfamore
    TC is good for Seattle
    Jun 9, 2018 0
  • Workday wRBO34
    Is TC base plus reftesh/4?
    Jun 10, 2018 3
    • Amazon / Eng
      Funfunfun

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      OP
      Yup
      Jun 10, 2018
    • Workday wRBO34
      Is refresh usually 200-400k at these top tier companies?
      Jun 10, 2018
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      Funfunfun

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      OP
      Amazon doesn't do refresh actually.
      Jun 10, 2018