Bullshit response by Kazan. The battery coolant is highly flammable. There’s many examples of burned up Tesla’s . Also m3 has wheels that are known to fall off, large panel gaps, crappy paint, no service parts, and a battery that looses 40% in cold weather
False equivalency? How much volume are we talking about, and does it surround the fuel tank?
Thanks for the nondenial. Those with common sense know that ice cars don’t have large lithium batteries that can experience therma runaway after their built it igniter fluid catches fire. That’s why you are so many of these things burning to a crisp.
Have you just missed all the reports where people were involved in crashes that first responders agree would have resulted in fatalities or severe injuries in ICE cars, but the Tesla owners and their passengers walked away with minor injuries?
No car is 100% safe, but large crumple zones in the front and rear and the chassis reinforcement (thanks to the battery pack you're so afraid of) make Teslas much safer than most of what's on the road.
And before it's assumed I'm a sales person/hype man, I work in service.
I must have missed those reports but I’ve seen all the burned up Tesla’s like the guy that burned up in south Florida after the wheel fell off but according to bystanders was alive before the flames engulfed him.
But hey, PM me, I’d like to talk to you about service.
You've seen those because they are more likely to be featured in the news. No one reports on ICE car fires anymore, unless a famous person is involved.
Coolant flows through an ICE, which is basically a hot metal box containing thousands of tiny explosions and motor oil, which is also flammable. Then there're the fuel lines that run right up to that explosion factory and back to the tank. Coolant is much less flammable than gasoline vapor, too.
In contrast, the high voltage battery packs and drive units stay much cooler in normal operating conditions and there is no gas. A high speed impact or something penetrating the pack are pretty much the only way you've ever seen a battery catch fire after a crash. And puncturing the pack is not easy. They learned their lessons early and added reinforcements, but they can't stop people from driving too fast for conditions.
Bottom line really is that cars are dangerous, no matter what moves them - they all demand respect and caution, but people are so used to them that they fear them less than flying! despite all the injuries and deaths every year. I would absolutely take my chances in a Tesla over any other car. If only I could afford one... (another topic entirely)
Now tell me which has higher fire probability? These are just a few reports in the past couple days. Did you see them in main stream news? Probably not, bc there is nothing new about ICE cars caught on fire. It happens every fucking day.
@berry: look at prices for a 6 yo model S. It is holding it's price pretty well. The model 3 will be no different. You can either buy it now or stand by and watch the EV's revolutionize the auto industry. I don't have a Tesla yet but having test driven one, I'm completely sold on buying the model 3.
Love my Model 3. While it's a great car, it is a little over hyped by the Elon worshippers.
Biggest annoyance is infotainment system since music relies on slacker, which is garbage. Only model S and X have spotify support for some reason.
Cons, when compared to my other car, 2017 Ford: - Voice commands not as easy or intuitive - Lack of media streaming options - Blind spot monitoring not as good - Park assist much less consistent - No heated steering wheel... didn't think I'd miss this but I really do
Pros: - Constantly getting better since purchase with regular software updates - Built in dash cam - Seats are 10x more comfortable on long drives compared to any other car I've owned - Sound system is awesome - Car looks sexy AF - Ridiculous acceleration, even on non performance models
Insurance costs are high relative to other cars at similar price points. (Model 3) Servicing a car can take months and no loaner cars. (Applies to all models) Oh yeah, Tesla keeps cutting the price. There's been three price cuts this year! So deprictiaton isn't as good as it's made out to be.
SW bugs, but seems to improve with each update No key fob, can buy one, but out of stock right now No cross traffic alert or birds-eye view, but cannot see why it won’t come later in an update with so many cameras I’ve heard that build quality (even later builds) lack the quality of luxury marques, but I have no complaints - I’ll admit that I’m not picky about those things. Super easy to curb rash the 18” wheels. May be inconvenient to charge depending on your situation. Yeah, that’s all I got. It’s that good. Way more pros than cons.
Only real issue is long road trips. Going skiing for the weekend? Need to really plan your trip and make sure you know where you’re charging ahead of time. Also need to live somewhere where you can install a charger.
My biggest gripe is the trunk. Every other manufacturer in the price range has a power operated trunk. Also, closing the trunk has a tinny thin sound. I understand Tesla had to create separation between the S and the 3, so iIf this is the worst thing I can find on the car, that's pretty good...
My other car has a power operated trunk. Thought I would love it but it annoys me so much. The foot sensor is constantly getting tripped when I try to load things, and it starts closing in my head.
I don't mind the trunk on model 3. I have more trouble with the frunk, since I constantly have to remind myself not to slam it like the trunk. And getting it to latch shut sometimes takes a couple attempts.