Negotiating New Grad offers from Google and Pinterest?

Google Drogas 🌊
Oct 6, 2018 19 Comments

I’m fortunate to have new grad offers from both Google and Pinterest(waiting to hear back from Cruise and Uber). The standard advice for negotiating is always “get a competing offer” but what is the best strategy once you actually have competitive offers?

Should I just keep sending offers back and forth until they level out? Or if I slightly prefer one place should I try to drive up the other offer as much as possible before going back for a counter?

These are both the initial offers with no negotiating:

Google - LA so scaled down about 10% from MTV
105k base (w/ 15% Target Bonus)
90k GSU/RSU
10.5 relo + no signing
TC 143k/year including target bonus

Pinterest - SF
120k base
152,000k RSU(at current eval)
10k relo + 50k signing + 5k for a trip anywhere in the world lmao
TC: 158k/year + 50k signing

Also both say they offer refreshers but don’t give much info on what that could be.

Any advice on the best way to negotiate would be amazing!

Thanks so much

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TOP 19 Comments
  • Google escher
    Google’s stock grant seems a bit low. Try to get Google to match Pinterest’s offer. If they don’t budge, get Pinterest to offer you more signing/stock/base and then accept the offer. Pinterest is close to IPO anyway and the signing bonus is substantial.

    Read this:
    https://haseebq.com/my-ten-rules-for-negotiating-a-job-offer/
    Oct 6, 2018 5
    • Google Drogas 🌊
      OP
      Thanks so much! Google has definitely said they are open to negotiating w/ competing offers. Do you know if google considers the Target bonus when matching/beating offers? B/c considering the target bonus and 10% COL scale down the offers are pretty much identical outside of signing.
      Oct 6, 2018
    • Google GAFAM
      Oct 6, 2018
    • Google escher
      I don’t know if they take target bonus into account. Another factor you should consider is location - do you prefer SF Bay Area or LA?

      In any case, try to get more GSU grant first. Recruiter might ask you “if I increase stock to X, will you sign the offer”. Be prepared, keep the tone positive and enthusiastic, but don’t commit yet.
      Oct 6, 2018
    • Google Drogas 🌊
      OP
      Great! What do you think a good aiming point for GSU’s would be? And would it be worth having a number I would sign immediately for to counter with?
      Oct 6, 2018
    • Google escher
      I think it’s not unreasonable to get 120-160k / 4yrs grant for Google L3. Maybe it’s lower because you’re joining the LA office?

      In general, check https://levels.fyi to see how much wiggle room is there
      Oct 6, 2018
  • Pinterest PyD63f
    Get us to 200k
    Oct 7, 2018 3
    • Google Drogas 🌊
      OP
      RSU or TC?
      Oct 7, 2018
    • Pinterest PyD63f
      RSU
      Oct 7, 2018
    • Google Drogas 🌊
      OP
      Cool is that the highest you think they’ll go if google keeps matching?
      Oct 7, 2018
  • Apple Pncdccg
    Under?
    Oct 6, 2018 4
    • Google Drogas 🌊
      OP
      Huh?
      Oct 6, 2018
    • Google Drogas 🌊
      OP
      Oh yeah I’m an undergrad
      Oct 6, 2018
    • Apple Pncdccg
      That’s pretty good offer. Many PhDs can not get this much pay.
      Oct 6, 2018
    • Google Drogas 🌊
      OP
      The Pinterest one? Googles is standard for them I’m pretty sure.
      Oct 6, 2018
  • Amazon FunQ44
    Did you have success negotiating with Pinterest?
    Oct 17, 2018 3
    • Google 🇨🇦 dry
      Went from 120/150/50 -> 125/170/50 with competing(although not much higher) offers from Google and Uber. Sounds like that’s their max(for me at least)
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Google 🇨🇦 dry
      New account name but still OP
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Amazon FunQ44
      Thanks! Have similar offers so will definitely try.
      Oct 18, 2018