Negotiating Uber offer

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Jan 6 33 Comments

Got a senior 5a offer with 180k+ base and 16k+ shares (worth $650k+ if $40 a share).

Hr told me that base and equity does not have much upside, but maybe can throw in some sign on bonus.

Question 1: is it true that equity can’t go up much? Is it true that recently Uber has changed and don’t negotiate too much, don’t compete with google/fb etc? hr also said that equity grant is tied to level, once level is decided equity is determined.

Question 2: the offer does not have signon bonus but hr hinted that it’s the most negotiable. Especially if first year pay at Uber is less than the pay at my current company. If I stay at current company I expect 270k annual pay (base + bonus + vested stock). If I go to Uber my first year pay is 180k+, since any annual bonus or stock vesting will be after one year. If I ask for 90k sign on bonus, will it sound very unreasonable? I’ve seen 100K+ sign on bonus before (from fb or amazon), but not sure what’s the usual range at Uber. my friends at Uber say Uber only started to offer sign on bonus recently, so it’s hard to find what is a good range.

Thanks for the help!

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TOP 33 Comments
  • Microsoft PMs4Lyfe
    Uber is terrible. I tried to negotiate to even get close to being competitive. They wouldn’t budge and told me it was “unfair” with some socialistic BS answer.

    My answer: Byyyyee

    I suggest you find another company to get an offer from.
    Jan 6 8
    • Microsoft PMs4Lyfe
      No they don’t. They said they don’t negotiate and the offer was final.

      I walked away.

      Fucking troll.
      Jan 7
    • Uber ZombieZoo
      We don't hire MS ppl generally.
      Jan 7
    • Microsoft PMs4Lyfe
      Correction: you can’t afford Microsoft talent.
      Jan 7
    • Salesforce Nueva
      Had an offer from Uber recently. They didn’t negotiate even though I had a competing offer from Facebook. But, the offer they gave was pretty good. 5a as well, around 25k more overall. Was told that’s the top of the band
      Jan 8
    • Uber ZombieZoo
      Maybe that’s why we don’t hire MS ppl cuz we already have enough entitled slackers.
      Jan 8
    • Microsoft PMs4Lyfe
      Pretty sure it’s a cash flow problem on your side.
      Jan 8
    • Salesforce Nueva
      Looks like Uber didn’t have any money to pay this guy a few thousand $ more. That must be it. Makes complete sense now.
      Jan 9
    • Microsoft change123
      @Nueva, Can you share ur offer details?
      Jan 10
  • Uber thuglife
    This offer is super awesome for 5a. How many YOE ? I am a 5a at Uber (got promoted 1.5 yrs ago) and I have way less than 16k RSUs including vested. Just take the damn offer.
    Jan 6 0
  • Apple / Eng Landlord
    Isn’t it much higher than your Msft pay?
    Jan 6 0
  • Uber kPCK48
    They wouldn't negotiate anything other than signing bonus with me. I had competing offers from Google and Apple and I got a $65k signing bonus.
    Jan 13 2
    • Amazon Nkbf63
      Was this over 1 or 2 year?
      Jan 15
    • Uber kPCK48
      2
      Jan 19
  • Uber _over9000
    I asked for a signing bonus and got $50K
    Jan 7 0
  • Uber / Eng
    jduag

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    Solid offer for 5a. IMO, 90k would be too high a signing bonus, you can try for something in the range of 40k.
    Jan 7 0
  • Amazon htcijft
    They give sign on split over 2 years. Probably can get upto 50k depending on other offers, interview performance and your negotiation skills.
    Jan 13 0
  • Uber DmMeUrTC
    Your first year comp at uber is 330 not 180 and possibly more based on your bonus. You don’t get to discount RSU when comparing first year TC.
    Jan 7 0
  • Pinterest dhevtxhs
    Base is low for sure. $40 at what evaluation?
    Jan 7 0
  • Uber ayiayi
    That’s a good offer, I’d take it
    Jan 6 0
  • New / Eng Za4rt8
    YOE? Are you 63 at Microsoft?
    Jan 6 0
  • Uber XjiK45
    sorry, don't get the math of your offer. how do you have $650k tc with that low of base and RSUs? how much annual bonus and refresher are you getting?
    Jan 6 2
    • Big Switch Networks / Eng script
      650k tc was never mentioned?
      Jan 7
    • Cruise Automation newstar
      That's the grant not TC
      Jan 7
  • Microsoft lshbeeo
    Did they gave timeline by when u have to accept or reject? I am also expecting offer and was told will have to decide within a week or so..
    Jan 7 1
    • Big Switch Networks / Eng script
      I was told that I had to accept the offer within 24 hours otherwise it would make things “complicated”. That was one of the things that sort of turned me off.
      Jan 7
  • Walmart.com / Eng
    perk

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    perkmore
    They do have year end bonus and stock refreshers vesting in 3 years
    Jan 8 0
  • Microsoft TonyShark
    No year end bonus at uber ?
    Jan 7 0
  • Walmart.com / Eng
    perk

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    perkmore
    Usually 3 days from offer
    Jan 7 0
  • Daimler Whowhatwhy
    Said no to me when I asked for negotiation
    Jan 7 0
  • Big Switch Networks / Eng script
    When I got an offer from Uber they would not negotiate on salary. They only negotiated on RSUs
    Jan 7 0
  • Facebook liberaleet
    Seems solid, yoe?
    Jan 6 0
  • Uber / Product zwXg60
    This is a good offer. Take it.
    Jan 6 0

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