Netflix hiring manager rejected me for asking about WLB

Facebook meh$$
May 3 72 Comments

A few months ago I had an initial conversation with a hiring manager which seemed to go pretty well. Towards the end she told me to ask her any questions I might have.

I asked her how is the WLB in her team. She didn’t like that question at all.

Her response was “I honestly don’t know how to answer that question. What do you mean by WLB ? We at Netflix look for people who are really motivated and always willing to push themselves.”

The next day I got a rejection mail from the recruiter saying I am not a culture fit.

Not trolling, Netflix seems brutal.

PS: it wasn’t actually me, posting for one my close friends at FB

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TOP 72 Comments
  • Uber xisu
    She may have overreacted but that's a stupid question to ask. It's the same as asking about vacation and pay on first call.
    May 3 10
    • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
      Why leaving Uber?
      May 3
    • Facebook meh$$
      OP
      @xisu why leaving bro ?
      May 3
    • Uber xisu
      Not ready to do nothing and retire yet. Still want to learn more and grow tc
      May 3
    • Facebook meh$$
      OP
      Hmm, is the rest vest thing true for all teams at Uber?

      Recently got an offer from your core infrastructure team . How is the wlb there any idea ?
      May 3
    • Uber xisu
      Core infra I heard is still bad, but lots of lazy teams elsewhere
      May 3
  • Marqeta / Eng Marqass
    Netflix: here’s 800k base, now work till you die or you’re fired.
    May 3 5
    • Facebook ⭕w⭕
      800k is 800k tho...
      May 3
    • New trmind
      I’ll take it!
      May 3
    • Facebook chromeo
      You get what you sign up for! Don’t complain!
      May 3
    • Marqeta / Eng Marqass
      Not complaining just stating a fact. I don’t work there so IDGAF.
      May 3
    • Facebook chromeo
      I was just playing
      May 3
  • PayPal x ploy ted
    Did you read the Netflix Culture doc? It answers your question for you.

    Netflix hires experienced top talent. You are not it. WLB is managed by the employee, not the company.
    May 3 6
    • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
      Though they may lack pedigree and prestige, what makes you think WITCH engineers are so bad? The reality is that getting ahead in software is all about LeetCode, familiarity with learnable system design best practices, personal brand and the ability to sell oneself. It has almost nothing to do with software engineering.
      May 3
    • Facebook ycAq13
      What’s WITCH?
      May 3
    • Amazon dqJw06
      Wipro, infosys, TCS, cognizant, and hcl. They are the trash Indian IT consulting companies.
      May 3
    • Intel / Eng mr_pleb
      I thought I stands for Intel.
      May 4
    • Google pilgrim
      Fwiw - cognizant is an US company
      May 4
  • Microsoft Sexybeast
    Wow. Given their culture deck, even if they pay me a million dollars, I will never be interested in working there. I want peace in life, money can come later.
    May 3 0
  • Netflix Zero Cool
    What are people talking about, pop by Netflix carpark after 5:30pm it will be mostly empty, on a Friday after 4:00pm.

    People that live in SF arrive at 9:45 and leave at 4:30

    WLB is the main reason I joined and have stayed at Netflix, other than TC
    May 3 7
    • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
      Are you in management?
      May 4
    • Netflix Zero Cool
      SWE are Netflix cannot be in management. Only ICs
      May 4
    • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
      How is your WLB so good when Netflix is well known to constantly fire people for little reason, and a recent poll on Bind showed that 92% of Netflix employees fear losing their job, which is far higher than any other company in the poll. (Amazon was 2nd at 76% and FB 3rd at 54%.)
      May 4
    • Netflix nfx1
      WLB is great here if you don’t suck
      May 7
    • Netflix Zero Cool
      I honestly don't think is true at all that Netflix fires more aggressively than other places I have worked before. We are just more transparent about it.
      May 7
  • Capital One zolk13
    Interview tip. Never ask the interviewer about wlb. Get that info elsewhere.
    The interview is your opportunity to present yourself as hard worker.
    May 3 4
    • Credit Karma kqqo46
      The interview is also the opportunity for prospective employee to determine whether the company is the right fit. Why would you present yourself as something you're not?
      May 3
    • Capital One zolk13
      Because any company would rather have the candidate that goes the extra mile often.
      Put yourself in managers shoe. You have 2 candidates who are equal in everything but given the opportunity to ask questions, one of them asks enthusiastic question about work and the other asks about wlb. Whom will you take?
      May 3
    • United Airlines / IT
      jky

      United Airlines IT

      PRE
      Weatherford International
      jkymore
      Companies want more for less. If one person will work more than the normal amount of hours without it costing the company more, it’s a better investment. They want a person who will just devote themselves to company over other things in life. A company’s goal is to make more money. That means more revenue, less cost.
      May 4
    • Google / Eng ECyG30
      I'd avoid asking about WLB and get this info elsewhere. If you think WLB is bad and you care about it, don't even interview. If you are not sure how is WLB but you care about it then interview and ask about it. In the worst case they will reject you but that's what you should expect.

      If you want to get the job, make sure you present yourself as best as you can, always.
      Aug 1
  • Credit Karma kqqo46
    Thank her for saving u. You're probably better off not working there if u had to ask.
    May 3 0
  • DigitalOcean
    fhwib45

    DigitalOcean

    BIO
    CEO
    fhwib45more
    I’ll hire the one who has a life outside of work every time. Which is what I do. People who work on my team are expected to give a full 100% from 10 to 6 and then GTFO to go do something else. It keeps them fresh, productive, and happy.

    But hey. If other managers want to risk meeting goals with a tired, distracted, overworked team, that’s their call. You level up as a manager by having your team make you look really good. So I take care of my team.
    May 3 2
    • Capital One zolk13
      The world will be a better place if more managers are like you.
      May 3
    • Facebook meh$$
      OP
      I am tired of these 9-5 jobs. I wonder how people do that their entire life.
      May 3
  • Netflix quickster
    I asked about WLB in my interview process and I got an offer. So the opposite can happen too.
    May 3 0
  • Bloomberg TCSlayer
    Well, if your friend had read the culture memo, they would know that WLB is based on how good they are. If you can accomplish amazing amounts of important work quickly then your WLB would be good. Most people, need to work hard to be great. So, here is my honest feedback Netflix style. I see a threefold problem with with that question:
    1) The person haven’t read the memo well.
    2) For every question one asks, one forgoes all the many questions they didn’t ask. It’s a choice. Ask your friend if there are any better questions they could have asked. What about the projects, the people, the product, the things that happen at work? What about what they can bring?
    3) It’s a short-sighted question since the answer is always: depends on how good you are.
    Jun 13 1
    • Oracle bromode
      There are no stupid questions only stupid people who bash you for asking good questions
      Jun 13
  • Work is life
    Life is work
    May 3 1
    • New
      chochi

      New

      PRE
      ARRIS, Motorola Mobility (a Lenovo Company), AT&T
      chochimore
      Sounds like your life sucks.
      May 3
  • Netflix / Eng LoveDeathR
    Parking lots don't lie. Check Netflix parking lot at 6pm and compare other companies. It may not be as good as Google but it's definitely better than other FANGs.
    May 4 0
  • New / Eng hei518
    I wouldn’t ask about WLB. Stupid question.
    May 3 0
  • Warner Bros. Skygreen
    How’s WLB at FB compared to Netflix?
    May 3 1
    • Rally Health PWcK47
      Million dollar question
      May 3
  • GE nCpP87
    Wtf does WLB stand for? What's it mean?
    May 3 1
    • Facebook meh$$
      OP
      Work life balance

      It means you are getting enough personal time for yourself and not working to death
      May 3
  • Dude you work for fb, already no wlb
    May 4 0
  • Microsoft leetworld
    You should only ask engineers this question. They will give more honest answer
    May 4 0
  • Netflix quickster
    That sounds anomalous. I'm sorry that happened to your friend. I'm my org people show up at 9 and leave at 5. It's pretty chill.
    May 3 0
  • Rally Health PWcK47
    Asking for a friend ....why ...can't he open blind account...... teenagers
    May 3 3
    • Facebook meh$$
      OP
      He is busy working...
      May 3
    • LinkedIn yesnoyes
      So he asks you to ask for him? Or you just butt yourself into other people’s business
      May 3
    • Uber xisu
      Isn't it ironic your "friend" who's busy working got rejected for asking about wlb?
      May 4
  • New arch135
    How bad is Netflix WLB.. I am having a hiring manager call soon with them.. OP, what’s ur hiring manager asked during the interview
    May 3 2
    • Facebook meh$$
      OP
      She asked my friend about his project overview, passion etc.

      Seems like they are abhorrent to lazy/ people who care about wlb
      May 3
    • New arch135
      Okk .. yea their deck says it all .. scary
      May 3