New Grad Negotiating Offer (Apple)

Undisclosed ZfhWyah
Oct 19, 2018 13 Comments

I’m speaking to my Apple recruiter next week to negotiate an offer for a new grad data science role

He sent me an email saying he needs to get input on what kind of offer I’m looking for & talk about other offers.

Don’t have any other offers yet but expect to see some from some non big tech companies soon.

Any advice on approaching these conversations with recruiters?

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TOP 13 Comments
  • Facebook QzuO40
    Rule 1: Don’t give initial numbers
    Rule 2: Follow rule 1.
    Oct 19, 2018 7
    • Apple cho Chang
      If u don’t provide ur initial expectations, they’ll try lowballing u. It’ll be difficult to negotiate up from there.
      Oct 19, 2018
    • Undisclosed 001002
      And if you say your number and they were planning on offering more, you’re missing out on some money. Unless you have other offers OP let them state their numbers first
      Oct 19, 2018
    • Apple cho Chang
      No, they would try to lowball u if they get to make the initial offer. Once u get lowballed, it’s not easy to raise the numbers very substantially from there.

      And there’s plenty of data on blind and at other sources to make sure you’re asking for initial numbers which are high up in the band, and not lowballing yourself.
      Oct 19, 2018
    • Apple 001002
      Huh that’s a good point. Haven’t had this particular conversation with Apple (I came to the recruiter with another offer already), but I guess there’s no standard offer they make to everyone unless they have a competing offer like google and fb do?
      Oct 19, 2018
    • New oibv50
      Ask for a range early on. Afterwards follow rule 1.
      Nov 4, 2018
  • Apple Vhff45
    Unless it’s another FANG offer. Apple doesn’t care. First question is usually is it “google” offer? Then they’ll go strong with the rsus talk. Granted apple is known for good rsu and bonus refreshers. Focus on negotiating base higher with no FANG counter offers. If FANG you got them by the balls. Negotiate till they don’t want to and then fall back on signing bonus. The refreshers will more than enough make up any difference if you last here and land in a good org.
    Oct 19, 2018 0
  • Google iogear
    levels.fyi
    Oct 19, 2018 1
    • Undisclosed ZfhWyah
      OP
      I’m familiar but I was hoping for more tactical advice on how to navigate the conversation
      Oct 19, 2018
  • New Friyay.
    Can you please provide some details about your interview process? I would have pinged you but this topic restricts PMs.
    Oct 19, 2018 0
  • Facebook QzuO40
    Tell them give me a competitive salary , market rate. Have some Initial numbers ready, and if what recruiter said doesn’t feel right. Counter or say I will come back with my expectation. Don’t give your numbers. Period.
    Oct 19, 2018 0