I am new to being a SWE and to the corporate world. I feel unenthusiastic and don't want to work at all.
At this moment, I have no good guidance/lead at work. And, my team usually WFH and I'm the only one who comes to office daily. This makes it so much harder to have a good relationship with the team members. School was so much better, we as team members used to talk, work together, have lunch, go out. None of that happens at work.
I finish the tasks assigned, but, I don't have any motivation to do them. I also feel large portion of the work which I do is monotonous on legacy systems. I feel like I'm not learning anything.
When I'm stuck at work, I'm stuck, as my lead hardly knows how to guide me. And, everything is tribal knowledge amongst team members. Zero documentation and bare minimum automated testing.
I don't know what I'm doing with my life and at work. I feel I should change companies. But, cannot as I'm waiting for my work visa.
Am I a bad fit for SWE career? Or is it just my team?
I am new to being a SWE and to the corporate world. I feel unenthusiastic and don't want to work at all.
- You are mentioning things that don’t gel well with your personality and a lack of a quidance as a new developer and you re thinking that you are not a good software engineer? Why would you put that burden on yourself? 1, don’t expect co workers to be friends but also find co workers u can have lunch with. Find your own fun outside of work 2. Sounds like bad culture at your job 3. Find a job with better team culture and then ask the question again
- Facebook NevernudemoreIt's really hard.
My best suggestions, which are not great, are to keep an eye out for events and attend/intrude on as many as possible.
In my experience, people who play board games or have some beers are always happy to have more people. A good start to hang out is something like "do you do this regularly? If you need more people, message me / add me to the group"
- 1. You might not, let’s just put that out there. You are co workers so that you can get alone, be respectful to each other, and get the job done. The satisfaction you are looking for must come from your own friends and family. You are setting yourself up for disappointment if you don’t. You can find awesome co workers but you might not as well.
3. Couldn’t you apply other places that would sponsor you? If not, use the next 6 months to keep studying. It’s hard esp when you are drained from an unpleasant day at work but it’s better to do it now than to start studying in October and realize you’re not passing any interviews. Trust this advice. At some point or another, you will have a job or team that you don’t like and you’re going to have to fight for what you want
- Asurion rm -rf /@OP - Look, I felt the same way. The coworkers being driven and motivated have the ability to infect motivation into you. I have seen it myself. If you are in a situation where you can’t quit, try finding motivation in a different challenge, like gym, biking, walk miles. Set up goals in your personal life and I can tell you it has helped me.
In the meanwhile, prepare. Leetcode can motivate too. Gather the ammunition that you will need when you get to October. Read technology books, they are extremely enlightening. Preparation took months for me and I got offers from Google and Amazon.
- Ahhhh that sucks. I’m sorry you’re experiencing this but it’s actually a lesson. You’re pain is real and it’s telling you something. It’s telling what you value and crave out of work.
The antithesis of the things you’re describing exists. You’ve got to take what you can out of your current situation, and better yourself on the side too. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR CAREER.
It’s a startling statement, but also empowering and awesome if you act on it.
You’re not a bad fit for your career choice. You’re at a bad fit for this company and team. Those aren’t the same things at all.
Congrats on identifying a problem. Now devise a way to fix it and act. You can do this.
- DigitalOcean / Eng jetlagLiterally no one wants to work. We do it for the money so we can fuck off at the end of the day and live our lives. Even at the best jobs, this holds true.
- New / Sales LadyCloserA guy I worked with won the lottery. He kept working 1.5 years then quit when they promoted him. He disappeared somewhere to Mozambique to live the rest of his days on a beach.
At first he was motivated by money, then achieving, but when that box was checked he behaved like the rest of us and stopped working at all.
I just don’t understand how he hid it. I’d be spending conspicuously and lavishly lol.Apr 16 9
- Microsoft OIC-u812moreI haven’t had to work for many years, but I do because I enjoy it. I still negotiate my salary and try to get increased scope, but it’s not because I must, it’s because I want to. I’m even taking a new job at a new company now because I want something more challenging.Apr 17 1
- Don't be discouraged by the responses here. Your work place situation is not normal. You should move to a more motivated workplace where people don't work on legacy stuff and don't wfh all the time. It makes a world of a difference early in your career. Later on, it can be more productive to work remotely as one gets more focused time.
- Sorry Snap that you've to go through this too. I know how bad it can get.
Almost everyone here suggested to move on and find another team/company. I'm guessing with Snap on your resume it should open some doors for you. Hopefully you'll find a better place! Good luck.
- As I can't reply to every single comment: Thank you to every single one who commented. Every single viewpoint and tip is very helpful.
Talking about this definitely helps. I feel better knowing that the root cause is not me and I can change this situation.
I think more people should just get their suppressed feelings out. Blind has been such a great community and I wish I had such coworkers.
- Work is less structured than school. Don’t expect everything to be handed to you on a plate.
At this stage in your career, you should be doing a lot of job-related learning by yourself btw.
- HPE QqqqqqaaaaA good manager at any stage of your career can make your job a joy or a nightmare.
Outline what you want to do both in current job and career wise. Plan a 1:1 with your manager. Agree on outcomes that deem your contribution a success. Ask how your role contributes to your manager's success.
If your manager won't engage, keep looking for a new role. A good manager appreciates initiative and will be happy to talk current role and career path.
- OP, been there, can fully relate. Look for a new project/ team. It can be extremely draining to have no one to help you out when you are totally stuck & wasting HOURS on something that could be resolved in only a few minutes, had someone who knew the topic & was not averse to help, was around. It is critical for managers to build well-functioning teams, else, the best members can end up being just that: members who feel like individual contributors, on the fringe & not engaged/ unable to contribute fully, due to unhealthy team dynamics
- Verizon XbVH67What you experienced in school was just that, an environment designed for you to learn. Work is different, now it's up to you to manage your path. Another thought here :if you can get to know all the various members on the project, you might be able to gain further knowledge without relying on your less than helpful lead. I agree with many of the manager comments. Your manager is responsible, ultimately, for the team and usually how the team performs is a direct reflection on his /her guidance. There are managers out there that do not engage and it's up to you to ensure you continue to move forward. That does involve imitative on your part, but you'll quickly become the knowledgeable 'go-to' person on the team. Having that in your pocket is always a good thing. Unfortunately, there seems to be quite a few companies out there that don't seem to put as much emphasis on documentation. It's up to you to document what helps you, and will be helpful for your future projects. You might discuss with your manager their thoughts about some specific internal training they would recommend.
- Intel dObv43I have experienced this and how I got over with it.
- I offer to help out other team in my spare time
-this helped me build my skills and get more visibility
- interesting projects started to come my way
- now I have good visibility and fun projects
- the key is to do more that what's asked out of you
- have lunch with a random person in the cafeteria
- you need to talk to ppl at work to feel alive
- For doing more than what is asked out of me:
I'm still learning and very early in my career. So it makes it a bit harder for me to contribute to outside projects. But, I totally see how this can help!
Lunch and talking to people:
I think you are spot on here. I feel dead at work. Just lonely and doing my work. Talking to people is such a key thing, one of the biggest thing which I miss. At school, we always had folks during lunch/coffee.
Being on the introvert side it's hard for me to have lunch with a random person but I'll try to talk to random people more. Hopefully, I might make new friends.Apr 16 4
- New / Eng Xrbg57moreTry to find a project you can work on that is fun for you and still shows some positive impact to your company.
Go to work with a positive attitude. Try to talk to your coworkers with a smile.
Happiness is contagious.
Be the light at the end of the tunnel.
I know. I sound like a silly self help book. But hey maybe go buy one of those and read.
Just find something positive or at least something you can improve because fixating on immutable structures will surely bring you dread.
- You're right about everything what you said. I think I can do this at a new job but not at my current workplace.
1. I'm extremely exhausted trying to be positive with my team/work
2. I feel like my legacy projects aren't as interesting as FB/G/AMZN/Uber who are directly adding value to customers
3. My co workers hardly come to work as they WFH, have no one to talk to with a smile
I really appreciate your advice, but, I generally feel low and doing the above things are extremely hard.
- Google / Eng odd primemoreMakes me miss LinkedIn. The engineering practices were god-awful but I had a couple coworkers that I liked and actually looked forward to spending the day with. Here it’s just eating lunch alone and being a passive observer to conversations in Chinese.
- Sorry to hear, odd prime. And that is why having an inclusive and collaborative (vs. competitive) team/ work culture is so critical. It can make all the difference between a high performing employee & one who leaves the company, in spite of said company being superlative in all other ways (as your scenario unfortunately shows).
- Amazon / Eng elatedowlmoreDo leet code and get out when you can. Sitting around and sulking won't do you any good my friend.
- Dude! Is not the team is you! Reach me and I can share some Goodreads. I was going through something similar in the past.