Non-CS/Priviledged people: How many tries did it take to crack FAANG?

New catt
Nov 11, 2018 88 Comments

For those people who did not have the foresight to take up a CS degree in a top school, aka non-priviledged background, how many times did it take for you to crack FAANG?

Let's define FAANG to include MSFT and unicorns like Uber, Airbnb, Lyft, LinkedIn, etc.

Let's also define one attempt as one round of applications, where attempts are separated by cool down periods. So if you tried all FAANG companies in 2017 and another attempt in 2018, that counts as 2 attempts.

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  • Google / Eng BiggusD
    Those who goofed off in high school and then went to a party school and got a marketing degree think people who had the foresight to do well in school and get a good degree are "privileged". You can't have your cake and eat it too.
    Nov 11, 2018 1
    • Amazon Gggfgggjjj
      I think what op is saying is if it’s more than 1 time they’re not willing to try. This is such a pointless question. If you want to get something then do it.
      Nov 11, 2018
  • Oracle xmsmek3
    Elite CS grads don't go into programming.
    Fang is a lot of state schoolers and internationals.
    Nov 11, 2018 5
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      Vertivco Eng

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      FastPapuanmore
      Where do the grads go into then? Law firms?
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Oracle xmsmek3
      Finance, some academia
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Amazon Py
      I went to an “elite” school

      Lots go into tech
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Oracle xmsmek3
      That's the difference b/t elite and "elite".
      Nov 12, 2018
    • Microsoft DOyu71
      Tons of people from Harvard, princeton etc at ms. Tons of them fail as well.
      Nov 13, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng Bs)&:!
    Made it in fang without a degree, first try *brag*
    Nov 11, 2018 8
    • Amazon / Eng Bs)&:!
      I’ve also worked at MS. Guess that doesn’t count either huh
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Polyphemos

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      Old school geek, father of 3, bike commuter, martial artist, libtard, Java sucks but everything else is worse
      Polyphemosmore
      Haven’t had any LI candidates in interviews yet, but it is MS, right? All the MS candidates I interviewed were crap.
      Nov 11, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng li-troll
      I didn’t say that LinkedIn counted.
      Nov 11, 2018
    • LinkedIn ks924gT
      LinkedIn and MS have completely different interview loops, criteria, and TC.
      Nov 11, 2018
    • GE / Eng
      weakPtr

      GE Eng

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      weakPtrmore
      Awesome job! Must be a smart dude
      Nov 11, 2018
  • Uber cooqem
    Joined Uber without a college degree, first try.
    Nov 11, 2018 6
    • Uber cooqem
      ^^ lol
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Uber cooqem
      I did drop out of a top CS program though, so maybe that doesn’t count
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Oracle xmsmek3
      How did you get Uber interview?
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      Vertivco Eng

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      FastPapuanmore
      Repeated applications, work experience, projects. Much easier to get in touch then Microsoft.
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Lyft rpMF46
      than* ffs
      Nov 25, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    onMyWay

    Amazon Eng

    BIO
    AWS
    onMyWaymore
    Offers from G, MSFT, FB, and Amazon first try, because I prepared and studied for each.
    Nov 11, 2018 14
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      Vertivco Eng

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      FastPapuanmore
      Yes sire.
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      Vertivco Eng

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      FastPapuanmore
      Why do you ask?
      Nov 11, 2018
    • New / Eng
      UnclesamX

      New Eng

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      UnclesamXmore
      Didn’t you get through ?
      Nov 11, 2018
    • New / Eng
      UnclesamX

      New Eng

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      UnclesamXmore
      Keep ur LinkedIn profile open and apply to a few positions , I accepted a position and even after that I have been contacted by recruiters and managers directly on LinkedIn
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      Vertivco Eng

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      FastPapuanmore
      Apparently word got out that this particular team won't be proceeding, but "the feedback wasn't terrible." Now what?
      Nov 12, 2018
  • Nutanix ggs53fj
    So we are now calling non-CS people as people from non-priviledged background. Heights of narcissism man.
    Nov 11, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng Uebdjdk
    So far flunked 2 FB, 3 G, 3 Apple, 2 msft interviews. Finally got in at msft on the third try and amazon on the first try. 🤷🏽‍♂️
    Nov 11, 2018 8
    • Microsoft / Eng Uebdjdk
      Yes 3 onsites :/
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Hats off to your persistence. Hope you get it next time 😊
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Uebdjdk
      Thanks. Unfortunately all those interviews were before I discovered blind and leetcode. That could have made the difference. Instead it was “cracking the coding interview” lol
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Marvell Not@Marvel
      Wonder how much this says about amazon. 🤨
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng JuicyFruit
      I think it says amazon balances experience and leadership principles against reasonable whiteboard problems that provide discussion and insight into your way of thinking. Vs did you do enough LC bs interviews. It was the most well balanced and mature interview I’ve ever had tbh
      Nov 19, 2018
  • Google HnDe60
    2.5 gpa Econ degree from a state school. Made a career change 7 years after graduating by self teaching CS fundamentals. Took 2 rounds. Keep hustling, anything is possible.
    Nov 13, 2018 1
    • Ridecell careerboy
      I like this. I'm a perseverance fanboy.
      Nov 25, 2018
  • Amazon Northman
    Technically I am physics not CS, though I did all the required CS courses as an undergrad a zillion years ago. Have received offers from two FAANGs and one other on your list, every one on the first try. Of course, I am no spring chicken (L7, 15+ YOE) so interview process is a bit different at this stage in life. I fail to see what CS has to do with privilege - it is about grinding through a hard curriculum for several years.
    Nov 11, 2018 3
    • New catt
      OP
      Did you have to leetcode at L7?
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Amazon Northman
      For IC roles, definitely. For manager roles, the leetcoding seems to die out at L7. Had coding interviews at Amazon several years back (for L6), more recent interviews lots of system design, domain specialized interviews, and people management.
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Interview Kickstart / Eng
      Soham@IK

      Interview Kickstart Eng

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      Soham@IKmore
      This. It's about grinding thru hard curriculum.
      Nov 13, 2018
  • Amazon Gjdyveycc4
    Define top schools?
    Nov 11, 2018 7
    • Netskope / Eng
      yeetleboo

      Netskope Eng

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      BIO
      EE from davis currently dong OMSCS Gtech ML
      yeetleboomore
      GA Tech top 10 in CS?!^
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Qualcomm
      #swe

      Qualcomm

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      Apple, Intel, Cisco
      #swemore
      GaTech Rules!!!
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      Vertivco Eng

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      FastPapuanmore
      Facts don't care about your feelings.
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Amazon Gjdyveycc4
      I don’t care or I think anybody give a shit from which university or college you are. So stop sulking.
      Nov 11, 2018
  • Facebook alt_qq
    Lol not wanting to be a SWE is not the same as not having the foresight to get a CS degree

    Honestly I just personally find solving business problems to be more interesting than programming/eng (and I have an eng degree)

    Got in on my first try, just like many others
    Nov 11, 2018 2
    • Nutanix ggs53fj
      You may probably want to rephrase, you personally find solving business problems more than engineering problems.

      Because, comparing them in general is like orangea and iPhones. There are different kinds of engineering problems an business problems. Some are harder and some are easier.
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Facebook alt_qq
      Yes just forgot to include that it's a matter of my personal taste
      Nov 11, 2018
  • LinkedIn ks924gT
    Many engineers in FANG did their undergrad in India or China, and did their masters in California while interning at FANG to land a job in FANG
    Nov 11, 2018 0
  • Microsoft DOyu71
    I have a CS degree from a very good public school. Rated top 6 when I was there. Got in on my first try.
    Nov 11, 2018 4
    • Microsoft / Eng
      PastDue

      Microsoft Eng

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      PastDuemore
      In the USNews rankings for CS grad programs, Berkeley and UIUC are both in the top 5, UW is tied for sixth. Seems pretty public to me…
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Microsoft DOyu71
      ^^Lol. No. There are currently 3 public schools rated in the top 6, 5 in the top 10, 9 in the top 15. When I went, the order was a little different but about the same numbers.
      Nov 11, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng
      PastDue

      Microsoft Eng

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      PastDuemore
      For CS doctorates in certain sub fields? Yes. Overall prestige in laymen’s circles means much less at the doctoral level.
      Nov 12, 2018
    • Microsoft DOyu71
      I would if I was going into computer science. And I dont know what ratings you're looking at but us news has MIT 2 and Stanford 3, UT 10. Apparently your hoity, toity degree didnt teach you to read too well.
      Nov 12, 2018
  • Apple wJUx77
    I have a business degree from a non Bay Area state school in CA and was living in LA. Could not get past phone screen at google, Netflix, and Facebook. Flew to Seattle to get rejected by Amazon. Was also rejected by pandora twice before finally getting a crappy offer from spotify in nyc. I had pretty much thrown In the towel for big tech when Apple responded to an application I had submitted months before. I’m now thriving at Apple with no regrets.
    Nov 11, 2018 1
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      Vertivco Eng

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      FastPapuanmore
      Are you yelling at people like Steve Jobs did?
      Nov 11, 2018
  • Synopsys wFatDuck
    EE degree count as non cs?
    Nov 11, 2018 0
  • Capital One 0-0-00-0
    Went to a good school for cs and am still trying .. hoping one day it comes through and do justice to the school
    Nov 11, 2018 0
  • MailChimp jsvew
    I'm only gonna try if they reach out. Amazon already has but that's an instant hard pass.
    Nov 11, 2018 0
  • Microsoft EMoC46
    Lots of people from UW at Microsoft who come from technical but non CS backgrounds (biology, physics, math, statistics
    Nov 11, 2018 7
    • Oracle xmsmek3
      Why would it be mellowed down
      Nov 13, 2018
    • New / Eng
      Roblox

      New Eng

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      Robloxmore
      I am talking about people with biology, physics etc degrees.
      Mellowed down because they won’t have the basics of data structures as part of their syllabus
      Nov 13, 2018
    • Oracle xmsmek3
      Why would it be mellowed down for people who didn't have the basics of data structures as part of their syllabus?
      Nov 13, 2018
    • New / Eng
      Ramdevbaba

      New Eng

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      Ramdevbabamore
      Because you would want to assess them based on their thinking ability and not on specific knowledge of certain data structures.
      Nov 13, 2018
    • Oracle xmsmek3
      Nah it's the same bar, they only do libtard methods for gender and race, not major.
      Nov 13, 2018
  • Intel swswitch
    How do you even get the interviews if you dont have a degree? What do you put on your resume?
    Dec 5, 2018 2
    • Amazon / Eng GHskann
      Step 1) don’t apply to intel. Step 2) make a portfolio.
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Intel swswitch
      How did you make a portfolio? And do recryuters even care abt them?
      Dec 5, 2018