Noob to 401k vs Roth 401k vs IRA vs Roth IRA

Hi, Just started FTE and trying to put money in 401k. I thought it would be simple enough. As I googled, there was so much information that it’s overwhelming. How should I start contributing ? Do I opt for 401k or Roth 401k. I am not sure I even understand half the things. What is IRA. How much should one ideally put in these ? Any pointers/advices etc is much appreciated. Thanks.

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gAKq67 Jul 21, 2019

401k - employer sponsored Roth- contributes after taxes are taken out IRA- is an individual account/not set up through employer. Stands for Individual retirement account

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gAKq67 Jul 21, 2019

Hopefully that helps

Fannie Mae 996 Jul 21, 2019

401ks are employer sponsored retirement accounts and IRA are individual. 401k and tradition Ira is where you put pretax money into your account, and are deductible from your salary in terms of taxes. This means is you earn 100k you only pay taxes on 81k if you max out your yearly 19k. Then once you withdraw from your account in the future you pay taxes on your money. The term "Roth" basically means post tax money, which using the same example as above, you would pay taxes on your whole 100k. However, all growth is tax free and when you withdraw from Roth accounts you don't have to pay taxes on them. Just note that there is a limit on how much you can put into each of these accounts. And if your total pay in a a year exceeds a certain amount you may not be elligbale to contribute to an Roth ira or you may even not be able to deduct traditional Ira from your taxes.

Apple tsrvbae Jul 21, 2019

Does Roth 401k and IRA have the penalty for early withdrawing before 59.5 yrs?

Salesforce aTicTac Jul 22, 2019

Before 5 years: Yes After 5 years: Yes on gains, No on contributions

Google rQsc13 Jul 21, 2019

There's a decent research overhead for any of this to make much sense. Luckily, Google is your friend ;) Else we'd sit here for ages answering all your edge case Questions

Oracle sweet2xRSU Jul 21, 2019

If my tc is too high for roth, can i still contribute? Ive heard of mega backdoor but honestly still confused

Google rQsc13 Jul 21, 2019

Google it After 130k you can't contribute to a Roth directly

Google justanhombre Jul 21, 2019

Wrong - there are no income limits for a Roth 401k. Only a Roth IRA is income-limited, and even then, you can still backdoor into it.

Intel NerdyTurd Jul 21, 2019

Here are the general rules of thumb, 1. Put enough in your 401k to recieve the full employer's match. 2. maximize your Roth IRA or Roth 401k. 3. go back and maximize your 401k contributions. 4. If you have any left over money to invest, consider opening your own personal account and invest in index funds which track the equity market. You must design a portfolio mix that is balanced in terms of risk, so for example stocks are usually 3x more risky than bonds. So if you have 50% stocks and 50% bonds, that's not a balanced portofilio with respect to risk. Also consider buying uncorrelated assists, so that when one assist goes down the other uncorrelated assist pulls your balance up. 5. If you still have money left over, save for a house down-payment or any other purchase of your liking, you can swap point 5 and 4 if you like.

Google gentig Jul 21, 2019

What if I want to buy a house in several years? The early withdraw penalty of 401k is not what I want

Accenture qakhg Jul 21, 2019

take a 401K loan, you'll be able to get up to 50K

Microsoft KvzJ87 OP Jul 21, 2019

Thanks a lot everyone !! Lot of good info.

LinkedIn ex-fb Jul 21, 2019

First max pre tax 401k. Then as much as you can into IRA and after tax 401K, to be rolled over to IRA. That’s all you need to know!

Google rQsc13 Jul 21, 2019

^ invest in target or total market funds first. Then take on more risk as you understand the topics more