Not getting much learning

Amazon AWS-Engr
Oct 6 16 Comments

Hi,

I'm currently a swe in AWS on a pretty impactful team with good WLB and pay. However, I'm not a huge fan of the way we do things at work. 99% of the code reviews is just making sure the business logic is correct with not much regards to performance, organization, or even maintainability. Documentation is a myth. If it works, ship it.

Prior to college, I didn't know this is how most cloud teams operate (or correct me if I'm wrong). On top of that, my team is just always focused on work and nothing else. Not many team events or overall team culture. Although this could just be the millennial / fresh grad side of me complaining.

Overall, I don't think I'm learning much here. Nearly all my CRs get approval without much in-depth analysis (I've purposefully submitted non-performant code to see if my co-workers will catch it and sometimes they don't).

My question is, is this common? I just passed the 1 YoE mark and if I start looking for new jobs, do I still count as a new grad?

TC: 150k
YoE: just over 1

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  • Genesys / Creative
    washtub

    Genesys Creative

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    Deloitte
    washtubmore
    Don’t even think of looking until you’ve been there for 2 years. After 2 years, you can start looking.
    Oct 6 5
    • Amazon fish#
      Old school thoughts
      Oct 6
    • Google Dilge
      1 yoe @ Amazon and no promo (still L4) is not a good look. We have some on my team and they are simultaneously arrogant and stupid.
      Oct 6
    • Bloomberg GOOGLE<GO>
      The comment from @Genesys is complete BS
      Oct 6
    • Genesys / Creative
      washtub

      Genesys Creative

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      Deloitte
      washtubmore
      Less than 2 years is a bad look. 2 years goes by fast. Less than 2 years at a job looks bad on your resume. Unless you can get a GLOWING recommendation from your current manager—stay put for 2 years. Build some cool shit on the side, do your own “learning” and move on once you hit that 2 year mark. Your nice WLB will take a hit on a new job, so there’s that, lol. Good WLB is rare in this industry.
      Oct 6
    • Amazon AWS-Engr
      OP
      I'm totally ok with taking a bit on WLB as I'm fresh outta college. I'll work from 9 to 9 if I have the proper accomodations.
      Oct 6
  • New / Eng
    xoogler420

    New Eng

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    Google
    xoogler420more
    Leave... one of the most important things for an inexperienced SWE is learning.
    Oct 6 0
  • Oracle UhuM34
    It is quite common. What you are lacking and what you desire is a team that is excited about work, and excited about their coworkers. It is a great experience. Not going to find it with teams that have been together for awhile. Go out and find a new team, new development or support of a new product, with a mix of experience, many your age group. I'm 30 years in. I had that experience many times. Something every newbie needs. 1 year in it does not hurt to look and knock on doors. Don't make it a rush and see where it takes you. It will keep your interview skills honed at a minimum.
    Oct 6 0
  • Google Healthy
    If it bothers you, consider working at Google. You will likely face the opposite "problem" here.
    Oct 6 3
    • Amazon AWS-Engr
      OP
      Yeah I am Leetcoding almost everyday after work since I don't do that much coding anyway. I'm really fearful of Google's extremely high bar.
      Oct 6
    • Google Healthy
      As long as you have the right mindset, just keep trying. I've known people who have made multiple attempts and found their place eventually.
      Oct 6
    • Amazon AWS-Engr
      OP
      Thanks. I'm extremely interested in GCP container registry and GCP cloud tasks. I'm aiming for those.
      Oct 6
  • Uber / Eng itsdara
    At AWS the focus is on OPs, they got it pretty much figured out. You should learn to appreciate that mindset even if you don't like it. IMO this is what makes AWS successful.
    Oct 6 2
    • Amazon AWS-Engr
      OP
      I'm glad they're successful. I'm not glad I wasn't there to make it successful. If it's just ops, then I'm basically a maintainence guy?
      Oct 6
    • Uber / Eng itsdara
      Yes they figured out how to quickly absorb fresh meat into the system to run the cloud. There are opportunities to learn new things at AWS, but again there's a lot of competition who want the same thing you do. Get a mentor and switch team, but first you have to do well where you are right now.
      Oct 6
  • Microsoft / Consultant micrusade1
    I would love to work for a team which focuses more on work, work and work than other casual nonsense.
    Oct 6 0

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