Now I have my offers, I can't decide what to do...

May 2, 2018 107 Comments

I have offers from Facebook, Google, Uber, Dropbox, and Amazon. The offers are very comparable, but the Uber one comes with extra equity since they are pre-IPO. I'm more into product rather than infrastructure, and so are the teams I'm being considered for. Opinions?

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  • Amazon / Eng
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    Morgan Stanley
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    Don't join Amazon if the offer is comparable and money is a factor. We don't do bonuses and barely give out any raise. The joining bonus is also a cover up for the slow vesting in the first 2 years.
    I'm not even getting into the culture here.
    May 2, 2018 4
    • Amazon DrunkChick
      What’s so bad about the culture you won’t get into it? We have work life integration and harmony here 🙏🏽
      May 2, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
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      LOL, yeah. Integrate work into your life. Loved it.
      May 2, 2018
    • The culture at Amazon: mean people. Very mean. Nobody likes to say “yes” or do any collaboration. It’s hard to feel like you belong...
      May 3, 2018
    • Amazon
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      Noir I might amend that to say "self interested" instead of mean. People are nice if you have something they want and indifferent or backstabbing when you dont.
      May 3, 2018
  • Amazon
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    Google is much slower moving. Google Cloud is a disaster, old enterprise folks from HP, IBM and VMWare — so it highly depends on your org, too.
    May 2, 2018 17
    • LinkedIn / Product SURM64
      I like GCP but to be fair underdogs need to be responsive. It's good going while they have to fight, they'll get complacent as everyone else when they are even with Amazon or winning.
      May 2, 2018
    • New iucnd
      I'm pretty keen on gcp. Aws has a lot of shit I really don't need but bored devs will find a use case anyway..
      May 3, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
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      Aws is duck taped together, running because of an army of devs doing ops and customer tickets. No engineering feat.
      May 3, 2018
    • Google UQBl37
      If you want to join Google, just join Cloud..growth is fast comparable to any other PA...
      May 3, 2018
    • Twitch kappa10
      +1 for google cloud. AWS is a dumpster fire that magically works... until it doesn’t.
      May 4, 2018
  • Microsoft wfhome
    You should not consider Amazon and DropBox at all, but just use them as counter-offers.

    For good WLB and job stability, Google is your best bet.
    May 2, 2018 14
    • New / Eng RhpJ71
      Google is known to let people cruise if they want to. Salesforce is not a great place for engineers. The list is more shades of grey than 2 distinct categories.
      May 2, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Al37$6
      Dropbox 2.1 years vs Facebook 2.7 years seems not much different. I would ignore the tenure report.
      May 2, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Product SURM64
      6 months difference for the mean is actually quite significant. Most medium tech companies have less than 2. Looks like Dropbox burns through a lot of folks. I heard some stories, not all of them good. Mostly hard to get stuff done there.
      May 2, 2018
    • Microsoft wfhome
      @SURM74 - I totally agree with you. There should be some hidden red flags or hidden skeletons in the closet.
      May 3, 2018
    • Microsoft / Mgmt
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      Mind you -- FB almost doubles every year.
      May 4, 2018
  • eBay rawfeed
    I am curious. How did you time such that all offers come more or less at the same time?
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Apple CTRO12
    Do you mind sharing offer details?
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Product Royz
    I'd recommend leaving tech and herding sheep. It's much more fulfilling and the wool is a tangible product you can manage
    May 3, 2018 0
  • Facebook Jeffbazoos
    I was in a similar boat and chose Facebook. For a big company, it really does move fast. Really like it here, absolutely certain I chose the right company.
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Oracle tU#9
    Pizza hut or burger King
    May 2, 2018 3
    • Symantec IAmWhoIAm
      Congratulations on your offers!
      May 2, 2018
    • Amazon EOIA55
      Eat fresh
      May 2, 2018
    • Google / Eng OAGb68
      Subway
      May 2, 2018
  • Microsoft qwerky
    Ever heard of eenie meenie miney mo?
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Tesla LEETCODER
    Hey I have interviews coming up can you briefly describe how you prepared? How many leetcode?
    May 2, 2018 1
    • Amazon ugfth
      Yea curios how long people spend on leetcode, especially if you're not that smart
      May 2, 2018
  • Uber broforce
    People usually recommend G/F on such polls. Although it's very hard to have impact and grow at G while WLB at F sucks and I personally don't like their products. U is a great option if you are excited about problem space and potential that company has. Equity can also easily grow 2-3x over next 2-3 years.
    Note that bigger companies have more presence here and people often recommend their own one with exception of Amazon.
    That being said you have great options on hand and pretty much any decision should be okay.
    I wouldn't go to Amazon unless it's a high level offer, promo process there is a mess also it's bad at rewarding good performance so don't expect any more pay than what you see on your offer any time soon. Dropbox IMO has limited potential to grow so I'm not sure why would anyone go there in situation like yours.
    May 2, 2018 1
    • Google fADF82
      Checkout chamaths statements on box at the sohn conference. Dropbox is in a similar position. Fundamentals are great. Remember the market cap is only 12b, they apparently pay well/perks, and its still growing fast. I have no horse in this race but I wouldn’t write off db.
      May 2, 2018
  • Amazon AMZNslave⚓
    Grow a pair and choose
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Facebook Gwkdtp
    Blind etiquette is that you post your level and offer info if you need more information.
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Amazon EOIA55
    You’ve peaked- don’t do anything except bask in the glory
    May 2, 2018 0
  • IBM / Eng
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    If you want product over infra then not Amazon, because if you wanted infra I would've suggested Amazon. For product I'd pick Dropbox or Uber.
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Amazon williba
    Why is this even a question.. Amazon FTW.
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Amazon tsrU47
    Anything other than Amazon.
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Google JanNoogler
    Depends on your risk tolerance and your opinion of the various bets these companies have placed.

    Biggest risk and reward is probably Uber, but maybe you think Google SDCs will payoff big so you go there (disclaimer: just a hypothetical. I don’t have any inside information about Waymo).
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng extends
    Stupid poll
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Google suhshebejk
    I think G is safe bet if you dont know what you want. If you want flexibility of moving to different teams FB will be easier.
    May 2, 2018 0