OPT Hiring Rant

innRoad wQyf06
May 23 18 Comments

I am aware that being on Visa makes it difficult to get hired. But I don't get why OPT candidate is less preferred over a candidate on H1B.

After a lot of discussions with recruiters, I have come across a significant subset of companies that hire candidates already on H1B but don't hire OPT candidates who have enough relevant prior YOE.

I just don't get it.

1. In the current environment, an OPT candidate can join a company the next day but a H1B candidate has to wait 2 weeks at least or in many cases have to wait for months for transfer when premium processing is not available.
2. There is very high chance of H1B transfer having an RFE while an OPT candidate won't have that problem.
3. You would be getting less than 3 years Visa for H1B guy anyway before you have to extend and once again run into chances of RFE within 3 years.
4. An OPT guy (with STEM degree) would be having 2 to 3 chances at H1B with over 50% chance in each attempt. For 3 attempts, the chances of him getting H1B is close to 90% after the recent change in order of lottery.
5. Even assuming an OPT guy doesn't get H1B in 3 years, isn't the 3 years that he works in the company more than what most employees stay for in most companies anyway

I am so upset that I missed so many opportunities that were a perfect fit for my skills and experience.

It seems FAANG (Amazon especially) gives everyone an opportunity irrespective of Visa status. Doing LC to get there.

TC: 100k
Edit:
YOE: 5 years

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TOP 18 Comments
  • Ericsson / Eng
    googoog

    Ericsson Eng

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    Verizon, Ericsson
    googoogmore
    F and msft don't consider unless one has at least 2 attempts.
    May 23 10
    • New
      notTeslaa

      New

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      Tesla Motors
      notTeslaamore
      2 attempts in what?
      May 23
    • Ericsson / Eng
      googoog

      Ericsson Eng

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      Verizon, Ericsson
      googoogmore
      2 shots at h1b.
      May 23
    • New
      notTeslaa

      New

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      Tesla Motors
      notTeslaamore
      So right out of college do they consider OPT hires? I assume OP is in OPT right out of the college
      May 23
    • Ericsson / Eng
      googoog

      Ericsson Eng

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      Verizon, Ericsson
      googoogmore
      Right out of college they do, that's when candidates have 3 attempts. But, if one doesn't get picked the first two times, then he can forget about switching to msft and fb.
      May 23
    • New
      notTeslaa

      New

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      Tesla Motors
      notTeslaamore
      Can you get multiple h1bs as well? I had a H1B after my BS and went back home and now after Masters, can I get H1B or just OPT?
      May 23
    • Ericsson / Eng
      googoog

      Ericsson Eng

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      Verizon, Ericsson
      googoogmore
      Interesting question. I'm not sure. 😅 Although technically I'm inclined to say yes.
      May 23
    • innRoad wQyf06
      OP
      Thanks for the info. I got 2 attempts left. Have prior experience before Master's.
      May 23
    • Correction: new grads who join top-tier companies right out of college get 4 attempts at H-1B since these companies file petitions even before them joining.
      May 23
    • innRoad wQyf06
      OP
      @LeetChamp Yes. I am aware of that. That's possible for someone who has a job offer by February and graduates in May.
      May 23
    • New Omlp77
      Correction: New grads don't actually get 4 attempts at H1B since most people graduate in May but H1B quota is filled up by early April. You cannot apply for H1B before you actually obtain your degree. This applies to undergraduates only though. Masters students can still use their undergraduate degree and apply in the general (65,000 quota) category in April, a month before they graduate from their masters.
      May 30
  • New
    AquaMayne

    New

    BIO
    Tc = broke. Education: the Derek Zoolander school for kids who can’t read and want to do other stuff good too
    AquaMaynemore
    It’s all luck... keep trying . People disqualify on trivial shit. I’ve been a citizen 3 years and I have the challenge that comes with being a super minority in Bay Area
    May 23 1
    • innRoad wQyf06
      OP
      Sad to hear that
      May 23
  • Salesforce namehere1
    Opt is only valid for 18 months max. That’s why.
    May 23 1
    • Google / Eng pm / modi
      It's for 3 years for stem.
      May 23
  • Groupon dhsksl
    I feel your pain. since your question is why, I am guessing these could be the reasons.
    RFE is not a denial, companies would be okay with RFE’s because RFE’s are usually about clarifying about the job requirement and the employee is already vetted if his qualifications are good enough for the position. So most RFE’s at all product companies get thru with no denials, its a different story for consultancies. Compare that to a h1b lottery which has been getting harder given the number of applications are on the rise every year. I know folks with AD missing out on the lottery 6times in a row now so companies find it hard to plan around that stuff. Also most opt folks who apply might already be in their second or third year so usually companies have a blanket rule to avoid OPT hires rather than a case by case evaluation
    May 23 0
  • Google / Eng catburglar
    Facebook does this too. They started only recently.
    May 23 0
  • Salesforce n00bmstr69
    I feel you. Airbnb turned me down because of the same issue.
    May 23 0

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