Oculus - awesome product, stable company under Facebook umbrella, comp competitive but lower then Pinterest and Cruise in base and total comp, team and culture sem great. Pinterest - incredible culture, work life balance seems the best. Most competitive package, equity side highest among everyone. Product and business model seems meh Cruise - role seems challenging, company seems to be going to great places and there’s a ton to do still. Pay is competitive, commute seems tough (coming from San Mateo area). What’s important to me: -product -stability of company and position -comp (short to mid term important) -work life balance (not working insane hours, being able to do things outside 9-5) Leaning towards Oculus esp if they can bump up the base just a bit. It’s about 40k delta from Pinterest’s yearly total comp, 20k from Cruise Anything I’m missing / should do more due diligence on? Update: Oculus is giving me a strict 24 hour turnaround time to decide which strategically speaking wise, I don’t agree with. This is a huge decision for me (and my family) that shouldn’t be rushed because there are ‘other candidates that they are considering as well.’ Any advice here?
Facebook is a public company and your Oculus equity is actually worth something. Give that, a $40k delta from Pinterest's total comp actually sounds very good already. Also keep in mind that Pinterest's CEO has been vocal about not wanting to go public.
Untrue about not wanting to go public. he’s just fending off filing rumors.
Yeah I would put a >50% discount on RSUs from nonpublic companies.
That’s helpful! Thanks
Oculus for sure. If you don’t like your project you can easily transfer. Facebook spoils the shit out of their employees what else could you want
Do you have any specific project or technology that you want to work on? Are you passionate about building self driving cars? Do you love to play games and would want to make it look real? if you could answer these questions, then you should try to negotiate harder and follow your passion. I seriously don't know what pinterest's business model is.
Great questions. I don’t play games and I’m not passionate about gaming but I do love the other world changing opportunities VR can give to the world. Self driving seems like the ‘cool’ thing these days but genuine passion wise, I thinking VR hits the spot. Thanks for the perspectives!
There you go! Trust me, money is very important part of your work but if you're not passionate about what you're building then you'll start to hate going to work. If it's not very clear then try to talk with your hiring manager about their roadmap for this and the next year and see if that interests you.
What’s wrong with uber?
Seems like all the comps are similar, just pick whichever product is the most interesting to you given that’s one of your top priorities. If work/life balance is a super high pri though, pinterest is definitely the best for that.
Oculus or Cruise. Have a friend at Cruise that really likes it but have heard some engineering horror stories about Pinterest.
How is work life balance at cruise?
What’s wrong with Pinterest?
Some quick notes about cruise: As far as I've been there, cruise has pretty good work-life balance. There's always the workaholics but it seems that most people are gone around 6 or 6:30. (standup is around 10) You should be able to negotiate more with cruise if you have a competing offer that's higher - I was able to get them to match my highest competing offer for base salary and beat the others on other aspects as well. Cruise's "stock" is worth pure cash by the way it vests, but it's tied to the value of gm, which may not have as rapid growth as fb. But it is paid out in pure cash so if that's something you prefer you can consider that. All 3 sound like amazing offers but you should pick what you think is the best fit for what you want. I would think the commute to all 3 should be similar if you take Caltrain. Not sure why cruise's commute would be more tough. Feel free to ask me about cruise. (I'm fairly new though so I might be slightly biased)
As former FBer.... I wouldn’t go to oculus. Try social VR. But I’d recommend cruise over all
What's wrong with Oculus and what's the difference between that and social VR? Social VR is same org.
It’s had culture issues. They’re not the same org. There’s a reason everyone on it has xferred
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These are all great offers. Oculus would have the smartest set of people you can work with