Offer Evaluation

PayPal JrgA54
Aug 14 29 Comments

I have an offer from WeWork and Salesforce

WeWork Software engineer L4.
Base 195k
Stocks 1500 stock units over 3 years (not 1.5m). So it translates to 165k over 3 yrs
No signon
500 yearly refreshers
Located in San Francisco

They mentioned their stock is worth 110. Company is not public.

Salesforce SMTS

Base 195
Stocks 125 over 4 years
Joining 15k
Location San Francisco

Could you guys please evaluate and provide feedback.

TC 150k
Yoe 5

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TOP 29 Comments
  • NVIDIA hotair
    Did you say > 1.5m in stock once they go public?
    Aug 14 5
    • PayPal JrgA54
      OP
      Updated.
      Aug 14
    • NVIDIA hotair
      ...can you just do the math for us, it hurts 😭
      Aug 14
    • PayPal JrgA54
      OP
      Updated again. Only for you :)
      Aug 14
    • NVIDIA hotair
      🤗
      Aug 14
    • BYTON cJKu57
      What's with this level of personal service to hotair.

      I need some math done also.
      Please do 110*1500 for me please.
      Aug 14
  • NVIDIA hotair
    Easy choice: Salesforce. Best WLB and benefits and no macroeconomic threats.

    But negociate more if you haven't settled on a "final offer" yet, they have more, especially on the sign-on.

    Sign-on can easily be 25k and stocks ~150-160.
    Aug 14 0
  • Salesforce ohanaUnana
    Solid offer for a SMTS at Salesforce, I know many LMTS that make less.
    Aug 14 2
    • Rally Health FuPayMe$$$
      How is that possible? Aren’t pay bands clearly defined per role?
      Aug 15
    • Salesforce ohanaUnana
      I wish, Salesforce bands are messy with many levels of overlap
      Aug 15
  • New ja_rule
    With WeWork you are taking a gamble on any stock value and I would be very surprised if it was 110 at IPO and the fact that someone told you that as a matter of fact seems weird. With salesforce you should also be getting an annual bonus I think unless something changed.

    To make a long story short, at your level you won't be getting rich either way and with the current economic uncertainty I would go with Salesforce.
    Aug 14 1
    • HashiCorp vrgO23
      It's not weird. It's a fair market (private value) and extremely important for tax purposes. They don't make this number out of thin air, it's a number auditors have to come up with for the IRS.
      Aug 14
  • Salesforce hekolo
    Salesforce yearly bonus for SMTS is 15%, so keep that in mind.
    Aug 14 0
  • Rally Health FuPayMe$$$
    I would go with wework. You can make a shit ton of money from the ipo.
    Aug 14 2
    • NVIDIA hotair
      In a bear market 🤣
      Aug 14
    • Salesforce / Eng Honolulu🌞
      This aged well
      Oct 18
  • NVIDIA bdei51
    Don't rely on IPO in this market.
    Aug 14 0
  • WeWork RPvk36
    Did they put the refreshers in writing?
    Aug 14 2
    • NVIDIA hotair
      Fuck no
      Aug 14
    • WeWork RPvk36
      Don’t count on it then. I have heard stories.
      Aug 14
  • WeWork / Eng vMuB14
    We don't do refreshers
    Aug 14 1
    • Salesforce nbHz42
      Most of Salesforce doesn’t either
      Aug 15
  • Fitbit lba575
    Damn what’s with the sky high bases
    Aug 14 1
    • NVIDIA hotair
      Come and see Fitbit 🤗
      Aug 14
  • Salesforce kiteflying
    Any sign on or 2 yr bonus from rework?
    Aug 22 0
  • Google goraptors
    Wework has one of the worst business model out there stock probably doesn't worth that much
    Aug 15 0
  • Google bachataa
    Salesforce rsu 125 or 125k
    Aug 14 0
  • Amazon sgsy5^
    WeWork seems better from offer perspective
    Aug 14 0
  • Amazon / Eng Beef Gates
    Wework, are these options or grants
    Aug 14 0

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