Offer evaluation

Qualcomm pcm1124
Aug 21, 2018 29 Comments

Cisco
Role- Software engineer IV
Total comp- 207K
Team- Have heard good reviews about the team. Non-networking team

Amazon
Role- SDE1
Total comp- 175K
Team- AWS
I wasn't told I was being interviewed for SDE1 role at the time of interview. I assumed all along that it was for SDE2 considering my YOE (3yrs before Masters outside USA). I have asked for reevaluation of offer considering I have a competing offer, but I doubt they will raise the role or numbers significantly.

Current YOE- 3+ after Masters

Which one should I consider?
Amazon brand will anyday look good on the resume, but is it worth going for a lower TC/role for a highly probable WLB screw up?

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TOP 29 Comments
  • Facebook / Eng NopeNope!
    Cisco?! Itโ€™s too early to retire, young man.
    Aug 22, 2018 1
    • Cisco Glasswall
      He works for Qualcomm, pretty sure he is already retired
      Aug 27, 2018
  • Proofpoint / Eng
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    I did not know that Cisco can pay this much
    Aug 22, 2018 0
  • Google zusammen
    They wouldn't offer you sde2 role just because you have 3 yoe + masters. It depends on the complexity of the project that you have worked on in the past and your contributions.
    Aug 22, 2018 0
  • Proofpoint / Eng
    Kya๐Ÿœ

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    Kya๐Ÿœmore
    I knew, this guy trolling
    Aug 23, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng ta5dig
    No way U r getting soft eng 4 with 3 years of exp at cisco..!! Plus salary at cisco wont reach 207k until u r tech lead 2..!!
    Dont take sde1, take cisco and in 2 yrs get to amazon..!!
    Aug 22, 2018 0
  • Amazon bcjkpdhhab
    Cisco have really increased salary band. My TC was $140k as a Software engineer IV. I was promoted to that level.
    Aug 22, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Other hihowareu
    Work at Cisco for a year or two, see how it is. And if you donโ€™t like it reapply to Amazon as SDE2 with more experience. As others have said you probably did not meet SDE2 bar this time around.
    Aug 22, 2018 0
  • Cisco Glasswall
    Cisco SE 4 is Grade 10 which breaks down as follows:

    Base: 140-150
    Bonus: 20-25
    RSUs: 25-30

    So his offer is not far off
    Aug 27, 2018 2
    • Proofpoint / Eng
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      Kya๐Ÿœmore
      Yoe, rsu is every year or 4 yrs
      Sep 1, 2018
    • Cisco Glasswall
      Every year
      Sep 4, 2018
  • Cisco Meraki2
    Another way to think is, offer from cisco looks high but stock from amazon has potential to dubble in coming yrs where as cisco, very less probability! So pick amazon... if u do well in 1-2 yrs u will be sde2
    Aug 25, 2018 2
    • Cisco Glasswall
      Cisco stock is up 50% in past 12 months
      Aug 27, 2018
    • Amazon megamorphy
      Amazon stock is extremely unlikely to double in the coming years. That would make it's a 1.8 trillion dollar company. Cisco is far more likely to double
      Aug 27, 2018
  • Google / Eng Trillion
    What do you mean by 3+ after masters?
    Aug 21, 2018 1
    • Qualcomm pcm1124
      OP
      3 years work experience after masters
      Aug 22, 2018
  • Amazon
    BlackPearl

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    What city?
    Aug 21, 2018 1
    • Qualcomm pcm1124
      OP
      San jose
      Aug 22, 2018
  • Akamai Technologies dextrocr
    You are young. You will get rich experience working in Aws team. Don't pay so much attention to money right now. Amazon AWS team is well respected in industry. I would say negotiate with AWS recruiter to increase base.
    Sep 1, 2018 0
  • Cisco gvvka!
    Trolling for sure... for 3yrs you cannot get IV in Cisco and 207k is questionable for IV... I see lot of Masters+2-4 yr guys in our team
    Aug 23, 2018 0
  • Cisco / Eng Meme123
    Thatโ€™s an amazing offer from Cisco for someone with 3+ years of experience.congrats !
    Aug 22, 2018 0
  • Avegant / Eng
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    Zilla Tmore
    Makes no sense. Please give breakdown. Is this per year TC? Amazon is lowballing you like crazy - I am guessing base is 110k or something
    Aug 22, 2018 0
  • Qualcomm pcm1124
    OP
    The job description sent to me early on during the recruiter phone call required 2+ years experience of so and so. So, I think I was never interviewed for SDE2.
    Aug 22, 2018 0
  • Qualcomm pcm1124
    OP
    All the coding rounds went really well, I wasn't asked system design question but a somewhat vague object oriented design question with just 15min left in the interview. If anything went downhill during the interview, it would be because of LP's I think
    Aug 22, 2018 0
  • Amazon megamorphy
    You probably were sde2 loop but interview did not go well enough and so got downleveled
    Aug 22, 2018 0
  • Juniper KekeWho
    Amazon for new tech work, product and career. If your early in your career and age/life (mean without kids etc), WLB would be a secondary preference for me.

    Cisco brand is like a death trap (plus your not in a networking role or product which means could be sacked when operations are tightened). It may become a challenge on the next job hunt.
    Negotiate if you got room and see of one appeals more for you (unless this is final).
    Aug 22, 2018 0
  • Facebook jpdB23
    You should have got SDE2 at Amazon.
    Aug 21, 2018 0