Oracle immigration voes

Microsoft babyvader
Nov 2, 2018 35 Comments

I want to start by saying I love working for Oracle. We are building ☁️ and I believe in the leadership. I have been here for 10 months and love every moment of it

However I am having a lot of trouble with the immigration lawyers. When I was in Microsoft immigration was smooth. The recruiter told me Oracle uses the same company BAL and assured me there is nothing to worry. I joined Oracle and I started noticing how hard it is to work with Oracle Bal. I finally figured out that they have a service agreement with Oracle which allows for being slow , having less number of lawyers, mail replies taking longer, etc. All in all I notice a casual approach from these lawyers in comparison to the Bal at Microsoft.

I had a 3 year h1b extension approved at Microsoft, but coming here only gets my extension approved for 1 year. I don't know whether this is an Oracle problem or a USCIS problem.

Also Green card processing is so slow that I feel my priority date will get current before my Green card is filed. The lawyers are very unresponsive and the management does not care. Raised it multiple times with my manager to no avail.

So my advice to people on visa, stay away.
Also feel free to share what worked for you. Are you guys facing something similar

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TOP 35 Comments
  • Google / Other snidely
    I'm so thankful I don't have to deal with my country's immigration system
    Nov 2, 2018 1
    • Microsoft babyvader
      OP
      You are the lucky one
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Oracle desiora
    I am with Oracle for last few years. I ended up with BAL attorneys which were freshers and lacked basic knowledge plus were very slow in response. I am not sure if this the issue with Oracle contract with BAL. MS might have opted for premium service. Getting 1-2 years extension is issue with Oracle because I think they get blanket labor approvals in bulk and use it for next few months.

    The worst part is most of the h1b employees (non-oci) gets their salary increment when they get their h1b renewed as that time they fall in the newer salary range as defined in the new labor. Then Oracle updates their salary to the lower limit (not even a dollar more). On top of that, their manager tries to take the credit for the salary hike but most of them know why the salary increased.
    Nov 3, 2018 2
    • Microsoft babyvader
      OP
      Wow. I didn't know this. This makes a lot of sense now
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Oracle BABA🤘
      I didn't know it too. This is lame
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Oracle PeregrineF
    Oracle reuses old LCAs - your H1B may have been filed against an LCA with only 1 yr remaining. These are all cost-cutting measures.. nothing to do with BAL or USCIS.
    Nov 3, 2018 5
    • Microsoft babyvader
      OP
      Oh no. This makes sense. But won't they have to keep renewing it which in turn causes more money
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Oracle PeregrineF
      Technically yes. But they have observed that people commonly leave before an extension is necessary, so it makes sense to reuse old stuff as much as possible :)
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Microsoft babyvader
      OP
      Thanks for this info
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Oracle BABA🤘
      Happened to me for my initial h1b. You can check your LCA end date and USCIS approves your visa until that date. This sucks as I have my H1b extension now and have to figure out a way around it. I guess BAL is to blame and not oracle, I might be wrong
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Oracle Bv3608
      It’s not cost cutting measure. LCA cost is less compared to H1b. So it is beneficial for companies to get 3 yrs instead of 1. They do it to avoid hassle of additional work and delays that come with new LCA like advertising etc
      Nov 4, 2018
  • Oracle / Eng ioTguy
    I’m on same boat. Getting pissed off with Oracle immigration. I blindly trusted my hiring manager before joining. You haven’t seen reviews here on Blind before joining ?
    Nov 2, 2018 1
    • Microsoft babyvader
      OP
      I trusted the recruiter. I learned it the hard way. Whenever I raise immigration no one even replies. Especially the Green card filling.
      Nov 2, 2018
  • Cisco FXzH34
    I read that 1 year extension is a new thing from DJT
    Nov 3, 2018 0
  • Oracle / Eng OrclPotato
    Is this in OCI ? I joined recently and got reorged.
    Nov 4, 2018 5
    • Cisco / Eng Xcar
      OCI got re orged ? Is it good or bad ?
      Nov 4, 2018
    • Oracle / Eng OrclPotato
      There’s lot of reorgs in OCI. I’m hating it very much
      Nov 4, 2018
    • Cisco / Eng Xcar
      Because Tk stepped down ?
      Nov 4, 2018
    • Oracle / Eng OrclPotato
      Not sure its due to that or something else
      Nov 4, 2018
    • Oracle MyWay!
      TK didn’t “step down”, he was fired. Saying he “stepped down” is like saying “my girlfriend just wanted to take some time off and see other people, but it’s not like she dumped me.”
      Nov 9, 2018
  • Oracle / Eng
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    Oracle Eng

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    Apple
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    They promised to apply for my GC within 6 months of joining, but applied after 21/2 years. Even now they are supposed to apply for I-140 and I have already paid from my pocket for premium and still it’s been more than 2 months and they still haven’t applied for it. I have sent 10 follow up emails. My manager/org don’t give a damn. Already fed up and will be changing soon.
    Nov 4, 2018 2
    • Cisco / Eng Xcar
      Some companies don’t apply in a quarter if they lay-off ! So I think it might be the case with oracle too !
      Nov 4, 2018
    • PayPal Yellowp
      Not quarter, 6 months!
      Nov 4, 2018
  • Cisco / Eng Xcar
    Is this 1 year extension applies to first renewal of h1b as well ?
    Nov 3, 2018 2
    • Microsoft babyvader
      OP
      Yes
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Cisco / Eng Xcar
      That’s horrible! I think even legacy oracle gets 3 year of renewal!
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Oracle inkfloyd
    I just transferred to Oracle on my green card that was applied by my previous employer. I got 3 years on my visa. I did have to push BAL a little bit but I guess I should keep in mind that they will need to pushed to have my green card transferred over to Oracle. Thanks for the heads up
    Nov 3, 2018 2
    • Bloomberg H4ead
      what. GC is GC, there's no transfer. You mean the application for GC?
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Oracle inkfloyd
      Yeah that's what I meant. The transfer I meant was H1B transfer based on my GC application from my previous employer(From where I have an approved I-140)
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Oracle Tiktok25
    My experience says ur manager does not have any say in immigration matters. They cannot expedite process. Whatever Process which only BAL and oracle immigration knows they follow it and take months to files LCA, Amendments. For labor and i-140 it is easily more than 06 months. In my case i tried to expedite it few times but in-vain. Plus BAL attorneys leave the work of preparing the applications to their assistants which are mostly fresh grads.
    Nov 4, 2018 1
    • Microsoft 🐐 go
      I think you are right the Bal for Oracle is handled by rookies whereas Bal service for Microsoft gives a better service
      Nov 11, 2018
  • Oracle fandantan
    It wasn’t the case for me. BAL kept pushing me because I wouldn’t get them the docs they needed. Ultimately got my green card after a year and a half, but could have done it in 6 months if I hadn’t been so slow with the paperwork.
    Nov 18, 2018 0
  • Oracle / Design guyinhood
    What’s your level OP?
    Nov 10, 2018 0
  • Cisco / Eng Xcar
    Then oracle is weird! No other logical explanation!🤔
    Nov 4, 2018 0
  • Oracle / Eng
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    That should affect the PERM and not I-140
    Nov 4, 2018 0

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