Overexperienced candidacy

Intel ""('o')""
Nov 28, 2018 17 Comments

I am being called into an interview which asks for 3+ YOE post PhD. I have 11+. I wanted to ask HR the pay range before coming onsite. He said i can't tell you that because if i give candidates a range they will ask highest amount I say. He pushed back to answer pay range. They are a good company but i might come out of their budget and really did not want to waste 8 hours of my life for an 8 hours of interview! What do you suggest? There are mixed suggestions on this one. I like the job description though as I see growth opportunity and was hoping to make a career change. I am in CA.

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  • MapR Technologies !!ongi88
    If they are in CA they have to share the range by law. Yes it is likely a junior position than you want. however if its with FANG then the comp may be fine if you do well at the interview.
    Nov 28, 2018 9
    • OpenTable Meliodas
      You can mention the law, and when they say, “no it doesn’t.” Then what?

      The way the law is worded, you have to interview before they are obligated to disclose salary ranges.
      Nov 28, 2018
    • Cruise Automation mocca
      ^ that's true, but not the reason the recruiter gave.
      Nov 28, 2018
    • OpenTable Meliodas
      Recruiters are idiots. Go to the interview, then ask for the salary range at the end. When it is low tell them that this could have been prevented by the recruiter.
      Nov 28, 2018
    • Intel ""('o')""
      OP
      Yeah. Job description is not job title specific but asks for 3+ yoe post PhD. I will get a chance to work in a new technology i always wanted to get into. In fact I am excited but of course cannot accept TC cut. They are smaller than Intel but are public and making good products. At another smaller company I waited until last minute after all lengthy interviews to only find out they do not want to pay $250k TC. I had to politely turn down the offer and that was not cool.
      Nov 28, 2018
    • Intel / Other 10% ESPP!
      I recently had a recruiter refused to give me a range in California, I didn't want to argue so I didn't push it. This was after they already gave me an offer and I wanted to negotiate.
      Nov 28, 2018
  • Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
    Instead of asking for a range, you could tell them your target salary/TC and ask if that is within their budget.
    Nov 28, 2018 0
  • Salesforce / Mgmt GQch66
    Run away. I have 20+ years and the start of any conversation I've had with a recruiter is salary expectations. They should embrace it, not avoid it. If they do avoid it, stay away.
    Nov 28, 2018 0
  • Lighthouse chikndinr
    I think you're playing the game wrong. If you like the job, go for it. If nothing this offer is leverage for better offers, and you also get to practice.
    Don't assume that you'll get the job either. Just interview, get offers and start a bidding contest.

    I'm not suggesting that you should interview with everyone. I am suggesting that you should for each position that you find appealing.
    Nov 28, 2018 0
  • Uber truckyeah
    Simple. Tell the recruiter what you're currently making and what you expect. If it's way out of their band they will let you know. The recruiter has as much of a desire to not waste time as you do.
    Nov 28, 2018 1
    • Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
      Don’t volunteer what you currently make unless you feel comfortable doing that. Telling them what you expect to make in the role should be sufficient.
      Nov 28, 2018
  • Cruise Automation mocca
    Personally, I know my market well so I state expectations to see if it's worth the time. Not everyone is in this position.

    I think it's worth the time to interview at a company you're interested in. It's only a day, unless you're spending weeks prepping. Interviews goes both ways, meet new people (people at interesting companies usually work at other interesting companies in the future). Find out more about what they're doing. Treat it as a Q&A with peers.
    Nov 28, 2018 0
  • AMD / Eng Kidology
    Just interview. If they like you, they will do a lot of effort to get you. You may lose one day, but it is a good experience and you will learn what the other company is doing.
    Nov 28, 2018 0