PIP at FB: experiences?

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Mar 14 16 Comments

Could you please give an example of why people, in your personal experience, have been put under PIP at Facebook? Say level E5 or above.

I come from a startup and got an offer for E5, and to be honest I don’t have a clue as to whether I’d be able to perform well or not (most of my colleagues throughout my career have been dumb as rocks so it’s easy to outperform in low quality companies, in which I stayed for visa issues), and it scares me considering the pressure cooking environment I’ve heard about on Blind.

I’m a typical startup engineer, not scared to work longish hours (10 hours a day are ok for me and can do more if needed), I try to contribute good ideas and code but sometimes the ideas turn out not that great and the code turns out more sloppy than I wanted, and sometimes it takes more time for me to deliver due to the project complexity.

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TOP 16 Comments
  • Spotify / Eng qbeforeu
    have some faith in your own abilities, you did get an offer after all
    Mar 14 4
    • New setter
      OP
      The interview didn’t focus AT ALL on what I’d be doing on the job, that’s why I’m so uncertain. It was a bunch of leetcode bullshit that I learned from EIP studying like a donkey.

      Literally if I didn’t read EIP I would be the exact same engineer with the same exact abilities, but I would have never ever passed.
      Mar 14
    • Wayfair ragnorak
      What is EIP?
      Mar 14
    • Zillow Group SnDe72
      Elements of programming interviews
      Mar 14
    • Microsoft richardhea
      Would not that be EPI?
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      Mar 14
  • Google aIfty25
    It is the same for everyone. I spent 10-12 hours a week doing interview practice for five months, installed a whiteboard in my house, all for something that didn't make me better at my job. Just able to pass an obstacle. Everyone you work with is in the same boat.
    Mar 14 1
    • Adobe VFne54
      The sad state our industry is in
      Mar 14
  • Facebook mr wiggles
    Bootcamp mitigates some of the risk since you can get a pretty reliable taste of the work happening on the team before joining. Ambitious folks jump into anything they find interesting, but cautious folks can look to see how much they can bring to the table - tech stack etc. Removing part of the learning curve is one way to reduce anxiety.

    Generally I don’t think PIP is that common, but I have no numbers. I do see engineers of variable strengths but I typically see them find their own niches to be successful. It’s not true that all the FANGs are just packed with superstars.
    Mar 14 1
    • New setter
      OP
      Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time.
      Mar 14
  • Amazon moved2ms
    I think you’re feeling imposter syndrome. I often feel it bad but I almost always end up with ratings of a top performer. Actually people I see with the worst imposter syndrome often are high performers so I wonder if there’s something to it...

    Regardless, have faith in your abilities and use your anxiety and uncertainty as a driver to ask questions and observe. Look at other high performers at work. Ask people in 1:1s what the biggest challenges are. Use your onbording time to get a good feel.

    You came from a start up which is a meat grinder on its own. I’m sure you can survive Facebook.
    Mar 14 0
  • Amazon
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    Chances of you getting on PIP in FB are much lower than Amazon.
    Mar 14 3
    • New setter
      OP
      Yeah not going to Amazon for sure. I like the company but opinions on blind are all so negative.
      Mar 14
    • Amazon moved2ms
      Only negative opinions make it to blind. Positives are rarely talked about.
      Mar 14
    • New setter
      OP
      Except that for the rest of the FAANG there’s the occasional positive opinion even on blind. Not for Amazon.
      Mar 14
  • OnDeck GPgj02
    It's the equivalent of going to circus every day during Hell Week in the Navy.
    Mar 14 1
    • New setter
      OP
      Have you worked at FB or are you just trolling?
      Mar 14

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