Could you please give an example of why people, in your personal experience, have been put under PIP at Facebook? Say level E5 or above. I come from a startup and got an offer for E5, and to be honest I don’t have a clue as to whether I’d be able to perform well or not (most of my colleagues throughout my career have been dumb as rocks so it’s easy to outperform in low quality companies, in which I stayed for visa issues), and it scares me considering the pressure cooking environment I’ve heard about on Blind. I’m a typical startup engineer, not scared to work longish hours (10 hours a day are ok for me and can do more if needed), I try to contribute good ideas and code but sometimes the ideas turn out not that great and the code turns out more sloppy than I wanted, and sometimes it takes more time for me to deliver due to the project complexity.
have some faith in your own abilities, you did get an offer after all
The interview didn’t focus AT ALL on what I’d be doing on the job, that’s why I’m so uncertain. It was a bunch of leetcode bullshit that I learned from EIP studying like a donkey. Literally if I didn’t read EIP I would be the exact same engineer with the same exact abilities, but I would have never ever passed.
What is EIP?
It is the same for everyone. I spent 10-12 hours a week doing interview practice for five months, installed a whiteboard in my house, all for something that didn't make me better at my job. Just able to pass an obstacle. Everyone you work with is in the same boat.
The sad state our industry is in
Bootcamp mitigates some of the risk since you can get a pretty reliable taste of the work happening on the team before joining. Ambitious folks jump into anything they find interesting, but cautious folks can look to see how much they can bring to the table - tech stack etc. Removing part of the learning curve is one way to reduce anxiety. Generally I don’t think PIP is that common, but I have no numbers. I do see engineers of variable strengths but I typically see them find their own niches to be successful. It’s not true that all the FANGs are just packed with superstars.
Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time.
I think you’re feeling imposter syndrome. I often feel it bad but I almost always end up with ratings of a top performer. Actually people I see with the worst imposter syndrome often are high performers so I wonder if there’s something to it... Regardless, have faith in your abilities and use your anxiety and uncertainty as a driver to ask questions and observe. Look at other high performers at work. Ask people in 1:1s what the biggest challenges are. Use your onbording time to get a good feel. You came from a start up which is a meat grinder on its own. I’m sure you can survive Facebook.
I have serious imposter syndrome at times and I always get top ratings. I agree with this comment. I think a bit of fear and anxiety is healthy because it pushes you to work harder and perform better. The same thing happened to me when I was at Google. Now I have a bit of it going into Facebook, especially aggravated on reading the horror stories of PIP and E5 expectations. We'll see. OP, I think you'll be fine. Your manager, your mentor and other people around you will help you directly or indirectly in understanding the expectations and knowing what to do to be successful.
Chances of you getting on PIP in FB are much lower than Amazon.
Yeah not going to Amazon for sure. I like the company but opinions on blind are all so negative.
Only negative opinions make it to blind. Positives are rarely talked about.
@setter did you end up joining Facebook? How has been your experience so far? Did your fears subside after a year? Curious. :-)
why do OPs always do this
I don't know how Blind works after one changes job and gets a new work email id. Will they still retain their account or will it freeze the old account and ask you to create a new one? If that's the case, the OP probably never got the notification. Again, checking OP: @setter what are your experiences after joining Facebook? Do post an update here!
Knock knock op. How is it going at FB?
How is it going at FB op.. joining soon
It's the equivalent of going to circus every day during Hell Week in the Navy.
Have you worked at FB or are you just trolling?