Indians of blind, I’m genuinely curious why when you go back home to India you need 3-4 weeks. An acquaintance told me he’s “only” going back for 2 weeks and several teammates always go for 3+ weeks. I have relatives in asia and a 10-14 day trip enough for me if I’m not also vacationing to another country.
We now have a PTO police? What’s next? Commute times, lunch and bio breaks? Don’t you have anything better to do than sniff around?
He said he was genuinely curious and yet you still imputed an alterior motive to his question.
Lmao Samsung why do you keep editing your post? You must be triggered. Workday has unlimited pto and I encourage my employees to take 20+ days a year. Like chase said I’m genuinely curious
For starters, 'Asia' is only ~half the flying time to India
Wondered the same, pure curiosity. I’d love a month to travel
If you don’t have 4 weeks annual leave, and can’t choose to do with your own vacation that you earned, then you’re doing something really really wrong.
Assuming a departure from sfo, if you are flying to any Indian metro, it's between 9500-10000 miles one way depending on the airport you choose to connect in (sin /dxb/hkg/lhr/fra/cdg/ams). You can do the math on gcmap.com for time to cover that distance. Add in layover time for the connection. Drop in constraints around pricing the ticket. Etc You end up spending a minimum of 23 hours US airport to India airport. Dateline crossing will mean that's 1.5 -2.5 days. One way. 3-4 calendar days would have been burned just in the flying to and back. Say you spend a week (7 days) with family. That's 10-11 days. Given the number of time zones it will take at least 3-5 days to adjust.
Whenever I go to india (which is every year or 2), I take atleast 3 to 4 weeks of leave. This is irrespective of whether I have to do stamping or not. I like to just relax at my parents home and do some lite traveling. Anything less than 3 weeks doesn't feel good for me.
"I have relatives in Asia and a 10-14 day trip enough for me if in also not vacationing to another country." - you recognize and realize that the immigrants who go there for 3-4 weeks don't have just "relatives" there. In many cases it's their ageing parents and immediate family which they get to see ONCE every year. Full disclosure - I'm a white manager and I have a team with many international folks from different countries, not just Asia. They are humans first and they have responsibilities towards their families just like you and I. Empathy is what we need to bear towards our fellow colleagues and this doesn't require anything more than to truly get to know them and their backgrounds which includes their responsibilities towards their own families and maintaining status in a country which is already making it difficult for them to stay here legally. Hope this helps.
Thank you, trib03, for your very empathetic & perfectly on-spot reply. These are precisely the reasons why Indians take the length of vacation they do. On a different note, I'm sure your team is lucky to have you as their manager.
Indians miss home more than other 'Asians'
One of my colleagues flies to India (Delhi) from SFO every alternate month. He goes there for a week. He works here but his family lives there. His wife apparently doesn’t want to live the life of a maid over here. He takes the non-stop. His total travel time is around 20 hours. This includes the travel time to and from the airport and the check-in time.
Curious what is his TC?
SFO-DEL is an outlier. AFAIK AI is the only carrier that flies the route. AI has a poor operational record. You're lucky to depart and arrive on time. BOM is the only other Indian city I know with a US non stop. But with the brewing trouble over Iran and India's spat with Pakistan airlines were struggling to keep that a non stop given airspace rerouting because of those issues. There just aren't any other non stops to India out of the US.
India is farthest from US - 24 hours. Indians also have a million relatives to visit.
This ☝🏼and most of the childhood friends are in India. So it’s catching up with everyone across the country. Also some work from India and make the trip a month. Work remotely for two weeks and vacation for 2 weeks. Again Indians are South Asians and are more deeply attached to their families in India than their “Asian” counterparts. in my experience.
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3-4 weeks is often required to get a new visa stamped in the passport from a US embassy or consulate abroad (cannot be done within US).
Interesting. Some of my teammates take an annual 3-4 week trip so didn’t consider this situation
If they're married, often the spouse is on a different 3-year visa renewal "cycle" (so that at least one person is always able to travel in case of an emergency). If one person has to deal with waiting around for visa stuff, it makes sense for the couple to plan their annual trips together rather than leave the spouse behind while they wait around for the visa.