Phone interview AFTER Amazon Loop

Nordstrom lmao1
Jul 11 30 Comments

Anyone had to do a follow up phone interview AFTER your loop at amazon? I had my loop for an L6 role on Monday and recruiter called to say the team wanted more info and that I’d need to do another call with one person next week.

Seems to me that either I didn’t pass the bar raiser or someone I interviewed with didn’t like me?

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  • Microsoft wszzywig
    Sounds like they had questions about something that wasn’t answered during the interviews.
    Jul 11 1
    • Nordstrom lmao1
      OP
      Just wish they would have just asked me during the interviews
      Jul 11
  • Apple MyYO05
    Did you refuse any 🍌 ?
    Jul 11 0
  • Nordstrom lmao1
    OP
    Update: I didn’t get the job. The recruiter called and let me know that after a second debrief, the team wasn’t ready to extend an offer at this time. He said that the team agreed that I’m “100% Amazonian” and that I should apply for other roles. He let me know if there were other openings he would “reach out to me first” and to stay in touch.

    So that entire long process was draining, but, oh well. I guess it wasn’t meant to be. Thanks everyone for insights and support!!
    Jul 17 2
    • Amazon kavalan
      Seriously, go find other roles that you might fit (2-3?), and go back to the recruiter asking to be connected with the sourcer for those roles. You got a very friendly recycle.
      Jul 17
    • Amazon eldorodo
      Hey what role was it for? I am looking to hire SA’s in SFO and SEA. PM me if you are interested
      Jul 18
  • Amazon Agent 007
    This is the exception to the rule.

    Very rare and bad for everyone because it looks bad on the team and the hiring manager. Plus it’s a terrible experience for the candidate.

    Very likely the bar raiser thought you are ready for Amazon but not quite ready for the team you interviewed for.

    Keep on looking, and as soon as you find a stronger match, reach out to your recruiter.

    ***Don’t apply to any role that doesn’t seem like a match. *** you could then be officially rejected.

    If you bring competing offers you’ll be in control.
    Jul 18 0
  • Amazon eldorodo
    In addition to risks called out above, Could also have been a leveling issue. I am a BR and have recommended we consider someone for a higher level then they looped for. Depending on levels of the original interview you might have needed more data.
    Jul 15 0
  • Amazon / Eng laguna
    Usually when there are conflicting data points for something (code or design) , to be sure, they do put an another round to assess it again.
    Jul 15 0
  • Amazon dwg
    This generally happens when the loop is split and the bar raiser and manager can't reach a conclusion. Generally phone screen is a positive sign and basically me and you have a good chance to convert this with additional data points
    Jul 15 2
    • Nordstrom lmao1
      OP
      Weird thing I thought the interview with the hiring manager went the best out of all of them in my loop. Just posted an update and the recruiter said I had passed the bar, so I assumed it was others I interviewed with that had differing opinions
      Jul 16
    • Amazon WeuY47
      Don't beat yourself up. It might be that one of the interviewers didn't do their job correctly, and the loop needs that information to make a decision.
      Jul 20
  • Amazon shmeckly
    I am a bar raiser. We hate doing follow up interviews as well since it’s terrible experience for the candidate. So if we do it, it’s rare and we have a good reason: 1) we forgot to collect an important data point 2) you might be a fit for a slightly different position or role and we need to collect some more data. if we had enough to reject you, we would have already done that without a follow up. So you have a better than average chance of getting the job based on your follow up phone screen
    Jul 15 0
  • Amazon ijustcant
    I had this happen (but it is rare and recruiting is not a fan). In my situation (yours may differ), I had passed the loop on an LP basis, but there were questions about whether I actually wanted *this* job, since it was a departure from my previous focus (I was in energy). I gave them answers about why I found the team’s work interesting and how my previous work fit with the new work.
    Jul 11 3
    • Nordstrom lmao1
      OP
      Thank you! I have another call with the recruiter tomorrow to prep me for the interview next week. He didn’t tell me much on they “why”. But this helps....I’m hoping it’s not about raising the bar or the LP principles. 😞
      Jul 11
    • Amazon imdbeed
      I had the same experience as ijustcant
      Jul 15
    • Amazon snostreblA
      I'd imagine if the bar raiser said no, that's the end of that. The fact that it's not an outright no means it's a clarification or there was some disagreement about your ability in some specific area that they wanted to get more signal on and failed to do in the on-site. This reflects poorly on the team imo.
      Jul 15
  • Amazon xaSb14
    Don’t assume split loop, do assume lack of good planning. If the bar raiser or somebody didn’t like you, they would probably just call and reject you - that’s the reality of Amazon’s cautious hiring philosophy. It seems more likely that they just goofed, and realized in the debrief meeting “Hey, nobody on the loop asked him or her about x.” I have been part of loops like this, where the follow up was a phone call to get more info on something that they left out, then re-assemble to make a decision.

    This sort of happened to me (but years ago), and my first thought was the same - this must be a “split loop.” Not true, but I actually had another mini-loop, a set of 4 on-site interviews in another location after my loop in Seattle. Turns out it was not a split loop, it was just that the team I would be working with in my actual new location wanted to be included in the decision.
    Jul 15 0
  • Amazon Hope 2019
    This happens when either the HM or BR is not inclined but majority of the interviewers feel u have the potential and that’s when they loop u for a different team by having this phone call..
    Jul 15 0
  • Nordstrom lmao1
    OP
    Thanks everyone for input and suggestions. I spoke to the recruiter to prep for the call and he said I had “passed the bar” and it wasn’t a “bar raiser interview” but the person would be a certified BR.

    I just had the follow up call and not sure it went very well. 3 more LP questions and not sure if I answered them the way they want. I just didn’t have a good feeling, so guessing I won’t get an offer. If I do, I’ll let you all know! Thanks for the support!
    Jul 16 0
  • Amazon Nsgdbp
    This can happen when they thought you are a good fit for amazon overall but not for the role they interviewed you for. So it is called recycle and the recruiter may have matched you with another role based on feedback from the hiring loop.
    Jul 15 0
  • Amazon vMhA71
    Had this happen to me, it may be that you got recycled and are now being considered for a different team and the new HM just wa ts to be sure
    Jul 15 0
  • Amazon / Eng Bblindy
    This happened to me because they wanted to hire me but felt I would be a better fit for another position. I effectively had to do another mini loop. Got the job for better or worse.
    Jul 15 0
  • Amazon
    Hygtfdgr78

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    Hygtfdgr78more
    If it’s for the same role then it’s probably they had some bad interviewers who didn’t get enough data and the bar raiser and hiring manager need to ensure they have evidence of that LP or functional skill.

    I’ve also seen this happen I’ve you’ve been successful but recycled to another team. Due to functional fit or due to headcount being all gone and the new team would like a quick call before proceeding. But usually I would expect them to be transparent about this.
    Jul 15 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    fahrenheit

    Amazon Eng

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    Zalando
    fahrenheitmore
    This could just be matching you up with a hiring manager, at which point you're basically in and managers try to sell you their job openings. This can happen if your loop was for a "blitz", a hiring event not specific to a particular team.
    Jul 15 0
  • The Home Depot FPQk51
    Yes, I did. I had the interview, it was a coding interview and even though they said before the interview that they wouldn't ask any LP or system design question because they already did that during the onsite, the interviewer asked me if I had more time at the end and asked those questions anyway. Overall the 45 minute interview turned into an hour and a half.

    I got the offer. Starting soon-ish.
    Jul 23 0
  • Amazon brazil101
    L6 sde? If yes, how difficult was system design?
    Jul 16 0
  • Amazon
    kcc

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    kccmore
    It can be someone critical is missing in the loop so they need to follow up
    Jul 15 0