Pinterest engineering

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SMDj70

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Mar 25, 2018 27 Comments

Considering an offer there. How much do you believe the work is interesting from an ml perspective and how is the relationship with the pm team? Any view on which products gets the most visibility internally?

Also, how do the levels map to say fb or google levels? I know of levels.fyi but Pinterest isn’t there.

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  • Google / Eng
    SMDj70

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    OP
    Thanks! How is the relationship with the pm team? Some people told me that most decisions come from pms without engineering involvement but some other people are saying otherwise and so I’d like to know more :)
    Mar 25, 2018 3
    • Pinterest 82mwqp3x
      I’ve been here a few years and I’ve always had the impression that eng had a strong voice in all orgs. Possible that it might vary org to org though.
      Mar 25, 2018
    • Pinterest / Eng deR492
      Highly team dependant. I would agree with above poster - some eng do a lot of innovating on their end with little pm involvement (this is my case). Honestly I'd like a bit more pm interaction but it works out quite well. Organic side might be different, I work on ads.
      Mar 25, 2018
    • Pinterest 82mwqp3x
      FYI for SMDj70 I work on organic.
      Mar 26, 2018
  • Pinterest 82mwqp3x
    Our levels are meant to map 1:1 to Google/FB.
    Mar 25, 2018 3
    • Netflix fs92
      Google and Facebook don't match each other, so could you be more specific?
      Mar 25, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      SMDj70

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      Well, i have been at both google and fb, overall I found the level largely match. But maybe you meant to ask, does Pinterest tend to promo quickly like fb and has a up or out culture until l5?
      Mar 25, 2018
    • Pinterest sk2017
      Pinterest does not have an up or out culture till L5. But average promo time from 3 to 5 might be similar to those companies.
      Mar 25, 2018
  • Pinterest sk2017
    Work is interesting and unique technically and teams are small, so there are good opportunities for both ML and infra work in many teams. Discovery, content and ads all have solid opportunities for experienced ML engineers.

    Levels map closely to Google/FB. Possibly we have fewer very senior levels (7+) relative to those places.
    Mar 25, 2018 0
  • LinkedIn / Eng
    eUJC78

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    eUJC78more
    Going there soon, feeling like the people are really nice and looks like will be working on fun stuff. Seems like the team you talked about are really close to the one I’m joining :)
    Mar 28, 2018 1
    • Apple jvSQ82
      Congrats, are you going in ML? What’s is the range of offer they are giving. I am interested as well.
      Mar 28, 2018
  • Apple jvSQ82
    What’s your offer ?
    Mar 26, 2018 1
    • Google / Eng
      SMDj70

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      I don’t know yet, I will find out
      Mar 26, 2018
  • Apple jvSQ82
    What is organic side? Search and Discovery!?
    Mar 25, 2018 1
    • Pinterest / Eng qXnS74
      yep
      Apr 5, 2018
  • Pinterest / Eng cuEN14
    I love Pin eng, mainly because of the ppl. ML side is prob sexiest (since I want to expand knowledge here) but teams that are impressive are Shopping, web, iOS/cx, security. Work is interesting. On ramp like Basecamp could improve. Levels are weird tbh, and environment sometimes bumpy, but I like our senior engineers and think they try to pay it forward w knowledge, peer reviews etc.
    Mar 31, 2018 0
  • Pinterest yb6korz
    As a pm on an ml team I can say that the decisions are very data driven, and come from both pm and eng. Generally very rationale. Plus, lots of green field to really make a dent from an ml perspective.

    Feel free to DM me if you'd like more info
    Mar 29, 2018 0
  • Pinterest / Eng kirrly
    If you think the offer is good then take it. Lots of exciting projects with direct impact. Don't dismiss Ads either. Right now here it's very siloed. Ads side of the house and organic side rarely share anything aside from core platforms so lots of different use cases and systems to work with there as well.
    Mar 25, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    CorrectBat

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    CorrectBatmore
    Was this for normal SWE or for a particular ML role?
    Mar 25, 2018 3
    • Google / Eng
      SMDj70

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      OP
      Is there a difference? I am considering only ml product teams to do a mix of infra and ml. I’d be a software engineer.
      Mar 25, 2018
    • Pinterest Vi7ed7
      Ads or organic?
      Mar 25, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      SMDj70

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      All the teams I am considering are on the organic side, but I’d be interested to hear what would be the difference with the ads team
      Mar 25, 2018
  • Netflix / Ops cinemark
    Hey OP, did you find out? Also to Pinteresters here, what’s the pay like for L6 level? And what’s the typical responsibilities?
    Apr 14, 2018 1
    • Pinterest RPeO81
      For L6 it’ll probably be somewhere north of 200k base salary with lots of stock (negotiable). Responsibilities will depend on your wants. Some L6 folk are just incredibly solid engineers, others are “leads” over large projects with many people involved. It’ll really depend on how much of a leader you want to be versus individual contributor.
      Apr 16, 2018
  • Pinterest tsumtsum
    From what I know the FB levels here seem unreasonably inflated. People usually choose FB over GOOG at 6 and up because FB inflates one level for them and test them out for a year. I.e. GOOG 6 = FB 7. Seen it for at least 8 people that tried to leave Pinterest for either. I guess that might also depend on the person but my sense is this level fyi is pretty inaccurate.
    Mar 30, 2018 1
    • Google / Eng
      Bleeh

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      Bleehmore
      I think it is just goog in general which is very conservative on leveling external hires. Getting a 7 at fb as a hire is really hard, i was on a hiring committee at fb for a while and I don’t remember seeing one person approved for it.

      On the other hand, I’ve seen people from Pinterest being down leveled coming into fb.
      Mar 30, 2018
  • LinkedIn XQDk31
    What to expect for pibterest T5 offer?
    Mar 27, 2018 0

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