Please help me decide: Okta (Bellevue) vs Amazon

Microsoft gbub
Jul 25 23 Comments

Assume comp is the same or irrelevant (around 270k). 4 yoe

###Okta###
1. I got great vibes from the people and the nice smaller company feel (everyone on the team interviewed me, manager was nice, talked to directors and vps). I got enough of big company feel in Microsoft :/

2. Work is very product focused, so mostly feature work with mid scale services (I have experience in this kind of work). Okta integration network (OIN) is important for differentiation but not core to the company (more of an ecosystem thing)

3. Based in SF but I am told you can work remotely for whatever team

4. Great perks like unlimited PTO, catered lunches on alternate days, etc.

###Amazon###
1. The actual people I interviewed with weren't on the same team, but my potential team has mostly principals and seniors (so lots of potential for me to learn). My hiring manager would hire a different manager in a few months and I'll report to him/her (so I don't know my manager)

2. Work is core and directly tied to Amazon revenue, very high scale backend with machine learning exposure (directly working with scientists, scaling their models, etc.). Lots of new transferable in demand skills that I currently have no experience in.

3. Could be operationally heavier (but I guess that is normal part of services work). 1-2 pages a week for oncall.

4. Good team mobility since this is Amazon Seattle

5. The con is Amazon's reputation, no perks and low vacation (not sure how much is exaggerated). I am passionate about work, and like working hard but also want a life outside of it.

In my ideal world I would get Amazon's work in Okta, but alas that is not the case. How would you make this decision if you were in my shoes?

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TOP 23 Comments
  • Microsoft $€£¥
    Amazon. Early in your career this is the right move
    Jul 25 0
  • Expedia Group ex-pedia
    270 sounds pretty good for Okta senior. Was this after negotiating?
    Jul 25 2
    • Microsoft gbub
      OP
      Yeah
      Jul 25
    • Expedia Group vap-pedia
      Nicely done
      Jul 25
  • Amazon negotiater
    Given you already have Microsoft on your resume, you probably don't NEED Amazon right now and could take a scenic detour at a smaller company. But if you want to keep your career moving fast go straight to Amazon.
    Jul 25 0
  • Expedia Group ex-pedia
    What levels for each?
    Jul 25 2
    • Microsoft gbub
      OP
      Senior at Okta and sde 2 at Amazon
      Jul 25
    • Expedia Group ex-pedia
      You will learn a bunch at Amazon and the name rings out on your resume
      Jul 25
  • LinkedIn Fruck
    Okta is better
    Jul 25 2
    • Microsoft gbub
      OP
      Would you mind sharing your reasoning a bit?
      Jul 25
    • LinkedIn Fruck
      Amazon is a sweatshop, your contribution may not be noticed. Culture and wlb in Okta is much better.
      Jul 25
  • Okta hpence
    OIN is pretty important to Okta. Kinda the secret sauce. But probably a less broadly transferable skill set to machine learning and working with data scientists etc maybe?

    Depends on your goals for your own acumen and skill development. Culture at Okta is great and you’ll definitely learn from the ppl around you as they are some of the best at what they do. But what we do is pretty laser focused on identity integrations and ISV partnerships - so if that type of technical work doesn’t develop skills you are looking for, that’s a different thing.
    Jul 26 1
    • Okta hpence
      Also don’t do Amazon just for name on your resume. Okta’s got a strong name in tech rn for the most part, you’ll get a similar amount of respect for it imo and experience.

      I’d say if the actual activities you’re doing are far and away better at Amazon that’s different. We’re doing some machine learning stuff to with a few of our products that might eventually bleed into OIN work around risk rating btw. So ask around
      Jul 26
  • Okta doll$h
    Anywhere BUT amazon
    Jul 25 0
  • Oracle / Product
    larrys_mom

    Oracle Product

    PRE
    F5 Networks
    larrys_mommore
    Okta
    Jul 25 0
  • Okta / Sales abund
    Go to amazon
    Jul 25 0
  • Okta NpAV71
    Obviously I'm biased towards okta as I've been here for a while. Love the culture and people. Engineering is quite good with talented people. I believe there's good potential for growth, both in your career and as a company (look at the stock growth). Work life balance will definitely be better than Amazon but if you like working hard, you can make a bigger impact.
    Jul 25 1
    • Microsoft gbub
      OP
      Are you talking about more core teams at Okta? Somehow I feel like OIN and the Bellevue team is still a satellite team, not "core". I am on an ecosystem kind of team at Microsoft too and it takes some mental gymnastics to connect the work I am doing day to day with Microsoft revenue.
      Jul 25
  • Amazon / Eng yLvIs
    Okta.
    Jul 25 1
    • Microsoft gbub
      OP
      Mind sharing your reasoning?
      Jul 25
  • Okta RREl21
    Okta would be a good move at this point in your career, with the company growing, you have potential to stay long term and make a mark.
    Aug 7 0
  • Microsoft meanwhile
    Is the title senior for Okta and SDE2 for Amazon?
    Jul 29 0
  • Okta wRqL51
    Chose Okta over amazon/Apple personally for early career
    Jul 27 0

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