Pls help evaluate offers from FB and Apple

Intel Dtegv
Feb 7 32 Comments

YOE: 11 years
Domain: embedded software

Facebook
Level: E5
Base: 185k
RSU: 500k vesting over 4 years
Sign on: 80k

Apple
Level: ICT4
Base: 180k
RSU: 250k vesting over 4 years
Sign on: 50k

Both of these offers have room for negotiation as per recruiter but I would like to know how far it can go. I like the Apple team better.

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    • Facebook lwkenszj
      Notice OP from has disappeared. This is a fake post. E5s are not getting 80k sign on and RSU is too high given stock price.

      Also no reason for fb to significantly overshoot apple’s offer right off the bat given lower stock prices.

      If I asked OP details about his offer, he would run away more
      Feb 8
    • Intel Dtegv
      OP
      I am very much here. I think Facebook here is a HR guy trying to bring the numbers down
      Feb 9
    • Facebook lwkenszj
      DMed you
      Feb 9
    • Facebook woamadjej
      He didn’t respond
      Feb 10
  • Facebook DIKv77
    FB can go max till 600k RSU with offer from G. Sign on max 100k. This is last year max, not sure if things changed.
    Feb 7 7
    • Square / Eng SQ
      Are refreshers generally 25% of original grant for exceeds expectations?
      Feb 7
    • Google ikuf04
      Then how do you know 600k is max?
      Feb 7
    • Apple cho Chang
      @SQ E5 refresher for exceeds expectations is 150k.
      Feb 7
    • Facebook DIKv77
      Max with interview performance, for anything over a competing G offer
      Feb 7
    • Square / Eng SQ
      Ty, I assumed so. Refreshers are legit.
      Feb 7
  • Glassdoor gEJG42
    Avoid Facebook for the sake of humanity
    Feb 7 1
    • Pinterest
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      Trust Glassdoor.
      Feb 7
  • Google hoodiecode
    Best way to find out is to walk away from the deal. Tell Apple you are going to FB. Watch them shit the bed.
    Feb 7 0
  • Apple Cookenberg
    Got similar offer from Apple, you can push base to 200k-220k and sign on to 100k
    Feb 9 2
  • Apple JobsAtApp
    Up to 350k-400k RSU max at ict4 level. I don’t know FB refresher but here average is 100k. Top performers get 130-150k.
    Feb 7 2
    • Apple cho Chang
      Fb E5 meets all gets 120k
      Feb 7
    • Apple JobsAtApp
      Meets all at FB is literally exceeds expectations from what I heard. Not easy to get meets all.
      Feb 7
  • Microsoft Bajirao123
    No brainer.. FB it is. Higher pay, good time to join with stock still reasonably low, bootcamp flexibility and better for your resume as well.
    Feb 8 0
  • Two Sigma fork exec
    Is the Apple team embedded software related? What about FB? One thing to think about is you don’t want to get pigeon holed and labeled as someone who can only do embedded software, because it’ll male it hard to move as you get more senior. I think if you go to FB you’ll have more doors open to you 5 years from now, and you’ll also probably have more money on the bank.
    Feb 7 2
    • Apple JobsAtApp
      You think apple does not have roles other than embedded software?
      Feb 7
    • Two Sigma fork exec
      No, I think since the OP said he likes the Apple team better and that is his domain that might be where the role is.
      Feb 7
  • Apple
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    I joined Apple for the team as well. If I were you, I would go with FB...
    Feb 8 0
  • LinkedIn Lolllllll
    Be prepared for PIP when joining as E5
    Feb 7 0
  • Apple lokiloki
    Another Intel...
    Feb 7 0
  • Google ikuf04
    Which Apple team is that?
    Feb 7 0
  • Apple 🍎 inc
    I think take FB.. I am pretty sure Apple wont negotiate. Plus the offer they gave you is max and std for ICT4
    Feb 7 1
    • Google hoodiecode
      No way they can go higher for sure.
      Feb 8
  • ADP AgIh44
    Let apple know that you do have a competing offer on the table that offers more, but that you would much rather go with Apple, but you need to weigh in krona company that also recognizes your worth. Odds are Apple will increase base by 7%-12% and increase the sign on bonus. But for RSU, 500k vesting over 4 years is tough to beat.
    Feb 7 0